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I work in the US on visa and now thinking of migrating to Canada.
I have been living in the US for 10+ years (undergrad + grad + work).
1)Can anybody in Canada who at one time worked in the US share
his/her experience in Canada? Are you satisfied with where you are
now. or do you regret it. how´s your career/job there? are you in a
better condition now (then when you were in the US?)
2) I have read a lot of people who migrated to Canada complain about
the lack of job opportunities there and that their college degree and
overseas job experience are not "recognized" in Canada. I don´t mean
to be a snotty braggart; Does this experience happened to US college
graduate with US working experience?
Paulo
[01-11-2004,18:59]
Paulo |
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Canada vs. US (in reply to: is Canada really a better place?)
from my perspective...
-In the US... the rich are richer and the poor are poorer
-Canada pays high taxes, has universal health care and virtually no ability to protect itself from anyone
-If Canada was a US political party... it would be a Democrat (or slightly left)
-Canadians are shy about their patriotism - but it is very strong, we are still happy we did not go to Iraq
-if you want to retain your culture, I believe it is easier in Canada
-more economic opportunities in the US
-7-8% unemployment in Canada - skilled tradesman are the biggest shortage
-some professions such as school teachers or doctors must re-licence. Depending on your country of original education this can be very expensive - there are lots of foreign trained doctors driving taxi or making pizza
-in the major Canadian cities, the cost of living is very high... but compared to what! It is all relative
-some immigrants are very disappointed that it is not what they hoped and dreamed. Others thank God every day that they can work and send money home to their families overseas and provide for them in a way that was never possible in their home country - it all depends on expectations
-my fiance, who comes from Africa soon says ´Canada has no enemies´ and this is very important to him
When my grandfather´s family immigrated from Europe, half went the the US, and half came to Canada. Both groups lived well and have prospered. Both groups are equally proud of their country but us Canucks secretly think Grandpa picked the better place :)
[01-11-2004,23:32]
sharon |
A great nation (in reply to: is Canada really a better place?)
Dear Sharon,
I appreciate your pride of your country , I completely believe that Canada is a great nation.
[02-11-2004,00:16]
najib |
I think Canada is much better... (in reply to: is Canada really a better place?)
I think that is a very difficult question to answer and it has a lot do to with your personal expectations.
From my perspective, I just felt so happy to put my application to immigrate into a country that did not chose Stephen Harper as Prime Minister. That really told me a lot about Canada and the kind of values that most part of canadians stand for, which are basically the same values I support.
As a gay man, I can tell you that Canada is the most progressive country in the American Continent for granting rights for gays and lesbians.
People are more tolerant here towards immigrants, or at least they are taking the right direction to be less racist.
This country is safer because knows how to respect another countries and as we all know, this is not one of the best qualities of America.
Maybe you can make more money in America but if you get sick, you will have to spend it in Doctors.
There´s still a lot of things that have to be done, but for what it has been done so far, I would never change Canada for the States.
[02-11-2004,04:20]
carlos |
is Canada really a better place? (in reply to: is Canada really a better place?)
Hi Sharon,
Thanks for the information. Are you saying that even people who have degrees from the US as well as US experience cant get jobs in canada, based on their qualifications ? I know that people who have immigrated to Canada who are doctors work as cab drivers, pizza etc but do you think there are immigrants who really believe that when they look for jobs they dont really give up and go for lower payjobs and would like to go for the higher skilled job. I mean they try their best to get a high paying job, if i am not wrong. I think you should not say that doctors are working as cabdrivers, which give people the wrong ideas even though it does happen. I agree every place in the world has up/downs but i firmly believe that if i get my immigration papers, i will strive to get a high paid job and i believe everyone else must achieve that goal. Never give up.
Thanks Sharon
[02-11-2004,12:04]
Rasman |
is Canada really a better place? (in reply to: is Canada really a better place?)
Hi Sharon,
If you dont mind me asking, where are you from. I really value your input as I have seen your comments from other discussions. Please help me out here, i started my process in Jan 2004 (Buffalo Office), e-client says application started processing on Jan 31,2004, i received AOR on feb 2nd week, sent IELTS score in July 2004 and waiting for response for medicals. When do u think i should hear from CIC buffalo as i looked on the interview list on CIC, my number is not listed which starts with B04532.. but there are people with BO4533, so does that mean they go by numbers ? please advice.
Regards
[02-11-2004,12:21]
ShadowMan |
is Canada better (in reply to: is Canada really a better place?)
to Rasman...
when I answered the question about cab drivers, it was immediately after reading a very large newspaper article about how Canada is short of doctors and we are so foolish to leave foreign trained doctors to drive taxi.
In my daily existence, I have encountered endless numbers of very motivated, intelligent immigrants who are forced to re-invent themselves because they cannot find a job that uses their professional skills. Some professions are more difficult than others. It does not mean that they are not successful, it just means they have had to adapt to the situation. I see a lot of IT professionals on this forum. You add the Canadian professionals, and you quickly see that there are more skilled applicants than IT jobs. So, our friends will need to be creative in finding other ways to support themselves or be willing to live outside of our major cities. If our new Canadians struggle with English, they are at a huge disadvantage. I cannot stress enough that the better your english is, the better chance you have of success in Canada and finding the job you want.
I personally think CIC needs to change their skilled worker program. Areas where we have shortages of workers should get more points or priority so we can put people to work in the profession they have chosen, and Canada can solve our labour problems. We also need to do a better job of recognizing foreign credentials.
to Shadowman...
sorry, I have no knowledge of Buffalo. Thank you for your kind remarks.
[02-11-2004,13:29]
sharon |
(in reply to: is Canada really a better place?)
Hi Sharon,
Thank you for replying. I didnt mean to offend you but I was really scared when you mentioned that immigrants find it difficult to find jobs. I know it is difficult and one has to find something . I am very proficient in english even though I am from India and lived outside India for many years and in the accounting profession, not professional like CPA though and am fully aware that there are very canadian proffesional designations which one needs. What i need to know to you is what i need to do before i start looking for jobs in Canada. Please let me know.
Thank you once again for your valuable advice.
Regards
[02-11-2004,13:43]
RASMAN |
don't panic (in reply to: is Canada really a better place?)
thank goodness numbers are numbers and we cannot live without people to count them. You may consider working in a bank or credit union to start with. They do not pay very much but it beats driving taxi! Depending on your level of expertise there are surely lots of options for you. I know there are some websites out there that talk about acreditations... I will try and locate. Perhaps others can help out.
[02-11-2004,14:24]
sharon |
(in reply to: is Canada really a better place?)
Thank you Sharon. Please let me know some websites if you come across any. Also, you are right, the world needs someone to count numbers, Hahahahaha.
Best Wishes
[02-11-2004,14:43]
RASMAN |
accounting jobs (in reply to: is Canada really a better place?)
start with www.workopolis.com. type in ´accounting´ in the search window. a series of jobs come up from across the country. you can get a sense of what employers are looking for. Also try www.cga-online.org. It is the site for one of the largest accounting organizations in the country. I will try and locate some other sites for you.
[02-11-2004,15:04]
sharon |
What's Next... After Interview !! (in reply to: is Canada really a better place?)
I applied in may02 recieved file# nov02. Interviewed on 2 Nov04. Visa officer was nice and he took 15-20 minutes and informed me that i passed interview but he doesnt have medical results for my son and wife although were sent all togher but missing at RPC. He told me that it would take 2 weeks to find those medicals and 2 weeks to send you confirmation letter for payment of RLF.
If somebody can share his experience if its a real time period to get stamped my visas ?
[03-11-2004,01:03]
zhi |
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