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My immigrant visa expires on 8/17.
I will drive to Canada from Buffalo, New York. Is it ok if I leave the same day as I land. I cannot immigrate to canada for good at this time due to work commitments in USA.
By doing I will still maintain my right of being a Permanent Resident correct? I intend to permanently move to canada sometime next year.
I am thinking of literally taking a "U" turn on Buffalo - Canada border after my landing formalities are done at the Canadian border.
I will apply for SSN, Health Card, Bank Account # after I permanently move to canada next year. I will however give my friend´s address so that the PR authorities can mail my PR card there.
Please let me know if you find any discrepancies in this travel plan.
[11-07-2006,15:26]
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Java Man |
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(in reply to: Landing Formality)
Others may want to comment, but your plans sound correct to me from everything I know.
I´m just wondering what you intend to do with the car you´re driving across the border with? Are you importing it at time of landing? If so, you´ll need to make arrangements with U.S. Customs 72 hours in advance to export it. I also understand that after importing it with Canadian Customs, you´ll then receive forms in the mail (at friend´s address) within 30 days, requiring you to take the car to an official Canadian inspection facility and as necessary have it converted to Canadian standards.
And what about your "goods to follow"? If you land, you must submit this list at that time.
[11-07-2006,16:07]
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Richard |
(in reply to: Landing Formality)
I will be renting a car from Buffalo to drive over to Canada. When I finally Immigrate to Canada I will buy a car there.
Thanks for reminding me about the "Goods to Follow" I will have to make a list now.
Is the car rental idea acceptable?
[11-07-2006,17:21]
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Java Man |
(in reply to: Landing Formality)
Pleasxe note. Although with your "U" turn plans you can apply for the Health Card, to be eligible for coverage it may not be enough.
I found this at the Ontario Ministry of Health web site:
Eligibility
Ontario residents are eligible for provincially funded health coverage (OHIP). To be eligible for Ontario health coverage you must:
Be a Canadian citizen or have immigration status as set out in Ontario´s Health Insurance Act, and
make your permanent and principal home in Ontario, and
be physically present in Ontario 153 days in any 12-month period.
[11-07-2006,18:16]
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Richard |
(in reply to: Landing Formality)
Also note that to get the Ontario Health Card, a friend´s address is NOT sufficient. See below link:
http://www.forms.ssb.gov.on.ca/mbs/ssb/forms/ssbforms.nsf/AttachDocsPublish/014-9998E-82~1/$File/9998E-82_.pdf
[11-07-2006,18:21]
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Richard |
(in reply to: Landing Formality)
Health card, SIN, Bank Accounts etc. can wait till I finally immigrate to Canada at later date correct?
[11-07-2006,18:34]
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Java Man |
(in reply to: Landing Formality)
Yes, absolutely correct. PR Card should be your primary task for your landing travel. Those other items are better suited to apply for after you finally establish permanent residence.
[11-07-2006,19:04]
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Richard |
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Richard
What I have to do with US custom to take my car with me to Canada?
How can I make an arrangement with US custom 72 hours prior to my trip ?
Thanks in advance.
NoBody
[12-07-2006,15:12]
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NoBody |
(in reply to: Landing Formality)
Nobody,
This is at the folowing U.S. Customs web site. It can be quite confusing. I´m trying to figure out how who at Customs to send the described export paperwork to. I think it´s to the particular Customs office where you want to cross.
http://customs.gov/xp/cgov/export/export_docs/motor_vehicle.xml
Here are the relevant instructions from that site:
Basic requirements
A person attempting to export a used self-propelled vehicle shall present to Customs, at the port of exportation, both the vehicle and the required documentation describing the vehicle to include the VIN or, if the vehicle does not have a VIN, the product identification number (PIN). Exportation of a vehicle will be permitted only upon compliance with these requirements, unless the vehicle was entered into the United States under an in-bond procedure, a carnet, a Temporary Importation Bond, or under a personal exemption for non-residents who entered the vehicle for a 1-year period.
Documentation required
For U.S. Titled Vehicles
Vehicles issued an original certificate of title. For used, self-propelled vehicles issued, by any jurisdiction in the United States, a Certificate of Title or a Salvage Title that remains in force, the owner must provide to Customs the original Certificate of Title or a Certified Copy of the Certificate of Title and two complete copies of the original Certificate of Title or the Certified Copy of the original.
Where title evidences third-party ownership/claims. If the used, self-propelled vehicle is leased or a recorded lien exists in the U.S., in addition to complying with paragraph (b)(1)(i) of this section, the provisional owner must provide to Customs a separate writing from the third-party-in interest which expressly provides that the subject vehicle may be exported. This writing must be on the third-party´s letterhead paper and contain a complete description of the vehicle including the Vehicle Identification Number (VIN), the name of the owner or lienholder of the leased vehicle, and the telephone numbers at which that owner or lienholder may be contacted and must bear an original signature of the third-party and state the date it was signed.
Where U.S. Government Employees are involved. If the used self-propelled vehicle is owned by a U. S. Government Employee and is being exported in conjunction with that employee´s reassignment abroad pursuant to official travel orders, then, in lieu of complying with paragraph (b)(1)(i) of this section, the employee may be required to establish that he has complied with the sponsoring agency´s internal travel department procedures for vehicle export.
For Foreign-Titled Vehicles
For used, self-propelled vehicles that are registered or titled abroad, the owner must provide to Customs the original document that provides satisfactory proof of ownership (with an English translation of the text if the original language is not in English), and two complete copies of that document (and translation, if necessary).
For Untitled Vehicles
Newly manufactured vehicles, issued a Manufacturer´s Statement of Origin (SO). For newly manufactured, self-propelled vehicles that are purchased from a U.S. manufacturer, distributor, or dealer that become used (see section 4.1) and are issued an SO, but not issued a certificate of title by any jurisdiction of the United States, the owner must provide to Customs at the time and place specified in this section, an original SO and two complete copies of the original SO.
Newly manufactured vehicles not issued an SO. For newly-manufactured, self-propelled vehicles purchased from a U.S. manufacturer, distributor, or dealer that become used (see section 4.1) and not issued an SO or a Certificate of Title by any jurisdiction of the United States, THE OWNER MUST ESTABLISH THAT THE JURISDICTION FROM WHERE THE VEHICLE COMES DOES NOT HAVE ANY OWNERSHIP DOCUMENTATION REQUIREMENTS REGARDING SUCH VEHICLES and provide to Customs, at the time and place specified in this section, an original document that proves ownership, such as a dealer´s invoice, and two complete copies of such original documentation.
Vehicles issued a junk or scrap certificate. For vehicles for which a junk or scrap certificate, issued by any jurisdiction of the U. S., remains in force, the owner must provide to Customs the original certificate or a certified copy of the original document and two complete copies of the original document or certified copy of the original.
Vehicles issued a title or certificate that is not in force or are otherwise not registered. For vehicles that were issued, by any jurisdiction of the U.S., a title or certificate that is no longer in force, or that are not required to be titled or registered, and for which an SO was not issued, THE OWNER MUST ESTABLISH THAT THE JURISDICTION FROM WHERE THE VEHICLE COMES DOES NOT HAVE ANY OWNERSHIP DOCUMENTATION REQUIREMENTS REGARDING SUCH VEHICLES and provide to Customs the original document that shows the basis for ownership or right of possession, such as a bill of sale, and two complete copies of that original document. Further, the owner must certify in writing to Customs that the procurement of the vehicle was a bona fide transaction, and that the vehicle presented for export is not stolen.
When presented
Exportation by vessel or aircraft. For those vehicles exported by vessel or aircraft, the required documentation and the vehicle must be presented to Customs at least 72 hours prior to export.
Exportation at land border crossing points. For those vehicles exported by rail, highway, or under their own power.
The required documentation must be submitted to Customs at least 72 hours prior to export; and
The vehicle must be presented to Customs at the time of exportation.
Where presented
Careful attention should be paid to 19 CFR 192.2 (d), "Where presented." Port Directors will establish locations at which exporters must present the required documentation and the vehicles for inspection. Port Directors will publicize these locations, including their hours of operation.
Authentication of documentation
Customs will determine the authenticity of the documents submitted. Once determined, Customs will mark the original documents. In most cases the original document(s) will be returned to the exporter. In those cases where the original title document was presented to and retained by Customs and cannot be found prior to the vehicle´s export, the exporter´s authenticated copy of the original documentation serves as evidence of compliance with the reporting requirements.
[12-07-2006,18:16]
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Richard |
(in reply to: Landing Formality)
More U.S. Customs information on how to export a car. This is easier to understand:
EXPORTING A CAR
BASIC REQUIREMENTS AND PREOCEDURES
To export a motor vehicle from the United States, the exporter must provide documents that demonstrate proof of ownership. In almost all cases, this will be the certificate of title. The original ownership documents, or a certified copy, and two copies must be presented to U.S. Customs.
If you are exporting through a land border port, you must submit the ownership documents to that port at least three days before exportation. On the date of exportation, you must present the vehicle to U.S. Customs to verify that the car being exported is the one described in the ownership documents.
The car will be subject to Customs inspection at the time of exportation. If the exportation is by ship or plane, both the vehicle and ownership documents must be presented to Customs at least 72 hours before lading, at which time Customs will conduct its inspection.
The vehicle will be authorized for export only after Customs has inspected it and certified that the ownership documents are in proper order. Your original title will then be stamped or perforated to show that your vehicle was exported from the United States.
OWNERSHIP DOCUMENTS
Only the original certificate of title, or a certified copy of the original, is considered valid proof of ownership. Other registration documents, by themselves, are not considered proof of ownership. If the car has a lien, encumbrance, or is leased, the exporter will have to attach to the certificate of title a letter from the lien holder or lease holder authorizing it to leave the country.
If the vehicle is a new car that has never been titled, it can be exported by submitting a document known as a manufacturer?s statement of origin in lieu of the title. The manufacturer?s statement of origin may be obtained from the auto dealer. The original and two copies must be presented to Customs.
Some very old used vehicles and some foreign vehicles purchased abroad may not have a certificate of title, or junk scrap certificate in force and for which a manufacture?s statement of origin was not issued. In these cases, a bill of sale, sales invoice, right of possession, or other documents sufficient to prove lawful ownership may be used. In addition, the owner must certify in writing to Customs that the procurement of the vehicle was a bona fide transaction and that the vehicles presented for export is not stolen. Again, the original and two copies must be presented.
Check with your local Customs office about acceptable ownership documentation for cases in which a title cannot be produced. Most used vehicles, however ?and this includes used cars legally bought and sold in the United States?must be accompanied by the original title, or a certified copy, as proof of ownership.
[12-07-2006,18:22]
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Richard |
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