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Subject: Only Canada born get skilled jobs
  This site hates those who tell the truth about how they´ve been burned by Canada. They censor posts and don´t allow mention of certain sites that chronicle those experiences.

Found this another site...


The Canadian government is well aware of the biased hiring practices of employers in this country. Despite studies dating back two decades or more, successive governments, both Liberal and Conservative have chosen not to do anything about the issues specific to minorities and immigrants. That´s because the politicos and bureaucrats realize that the vast majority of Canadians will not tolerate reforms. In fact many polls show that a majority of Canadians would prefer to have immigration severely curtailed or stopped entirely!

De-skilling via credential non-recognition or the old "no Canadian experience", "overqualified" etc., are the tools used to suppress immigrant potential. At the same time minorities born and educated here are also frozen out of the better paying and more rewarding jobs because Canadians fear their presence in mid and upper level jobs.

Remember that the status quo is working very well for Canadians because it allows them a strong comfort zone where they do not have to "tolerate" new Canadians in the workplace... other than in very menial roles. It´s a 19th century mindset and you have seen ample evidence of it on this forum.

The Canadian government´s Multiculturalism website has the "Evidence Series" of articles. Here is one of them.

http://www.canadianheritage.gc.ca/progs/multi/evidence/series2_e.cfm

If you are a skilled knowledge worker you should be saying: Bye Bye Canada! Hello USA!

Grant Buckannon

[02-09-2006,22:48]
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Anonymous
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I´m not Canadian born! I was born about 20,000km from Canada and just immigrated 7 months ago and I didn´t have a problem getting into my field of job! Actually I had a job the day after I landed and started working 3 days later! And I wasn´t even really looking for work! And these people who can´t find work come from S.H.I.T counties like India or Pakistan. Sorry but I just don´t believe that a Doctor or engineer trained in these S.H.I.T Hole countries get the same level of education as a westerner!
[03-09-2006,03:22]
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Anonymous
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Do you have any background knowledge that allows you to speak in that manner? do you hold a MD degree, or maybe an Engineering degree, and have compare it with a degree in those countries? have you checked their syllabus?
Did you know the distance (straight line) from Sydney to Toronto is about 16,000 kms? where did you say you were born?

[03-09-2006,03:41]
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Jose Antonio
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Canada is the greatest country..........
[03-09-2006,11:17]
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Aion Roberts
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Half these posts are fake, written by Canadian born immigration consultants. They just want your money they´ll say anything to get you to pay them a fee.

Canadian liars and thieves.

Meanwhile immigration study conducted by Canada itself says its very very hard to get decent jobs Doesn´t matter if you take extra courses or even earn your degree in Canada, if you weren´t born in Canada the Canadian employers sniff you out and shut you out of all decent paying jobs.

[03-09-2006,12:11]
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Anonymous
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Newcomers held back
Canada´s laws, policies pressing issues: report
By Bill Dunphy
The Hamilton Spectator(Jul 13, 2006)

A newly released report by a Hamilton researcher says Canada´s laws and policies are undermining the efforts of newcomers to become self-sufficient and productive citizens.

"Few issues are as pressing," researcher Sarah Wayland says in the report, jointly commissioned by the Law Commission of Canada and the Community Foundation of Canada.

"Immigration ... accounts for more than half our population growth and about three-quarters of our labour market growth."

Most economists believe our economic health is dependent on growth, which is driven by immigration. If immigrants fail to thrive (they are doing worse than previous generations of immigrants) then, the theory goes, so will we.

"The difficulties newcomers face as part of their settlement experience must be recognized as Canadian problems, rather than ´immigrant problems,´" Wayland says. In her report, Wayland urges the private and non-governmental sectors to get involved in finding solutions to these problems, and says they have a key role in providing employment opportunities.

Wayland cites factors such as:

* Inadequate funding and inflexible programming rules for settlement service providers;

* Slow and complicated family reunification policies and cumbersome residency rules;

* Language barriers to health, legal and educational services as key barriers newcomers face when arriving.

Several recent studies suggest that the lot of immigrants who have come to Canada and Hamilton in the past 20 years has worsened significantly. Far more are living in poverty and far fewer are lifting themselves out of it, a reversal of pre-1980 trends for immigrants. In Hamilton, half of the 3,000 or so immigrants who have settled here each year over the past decade are living below the poverty line.

Wayland, who used Hamilton as the source for most of her research on immigrants, the barriers they face and the services we provide them, said as a society we´re encouraging immigrants to come to Canada even as we´re erecting more and more barriers to their chances for success.

Low-skilled immigrants who were willing to work hard and long to succeed used to be able to do just that in Canada, and certainly Hamilton is full of examples of people who immigrated here in the ´50s and ´60s and succeeded with only minimal -- if any -- governmental or societal support. But "we´ve lost a lot of those jobs, especially in manufacturing, and moved into a more knowledge-based economy, with an emphasis on language skills and knowledge," says Wayland. And while we´ve switched our emphasis to skilled and qualified workers, Wayland´s research found that at the same time we´ve cut language instruction services and tightened our local accreditation demands.

"Employment is the primary settlement need for most newcomers," Wayland said, which, if achieved can sweep away many other barriers to their successful integration into society.

Ironically helping more professionals find work in their chosen fields -- of medicine, finance, education -- would not only help the individual newcomer, it would provide those professions with desperately needed language and translation skills that keep many other newcomers from accessing their services.



Barriers to successful integration

Researcher Sarah Wayland studied Hamilton´s immigrant community and the agencies that seek to serve it, in preparation for her just-released national report, Unsettled: Legal and Policy Barriers for Newcomers to Canada.*

The report found many -- often government-created -- barriers to the successful integration of immigrants into Canadian society.

Key Findings
* Newcomers report their early years in Canada as characterized by isolation, vulnerability, and a lack of civic engagement.
* Employment is an immigrant´s primary need -- once employed, many other barriers can more easily be overcome.
* Communication barriers impede access to key services (health, education, legal) for many.
* Current language training and translation services fail to help immigrants overcome barriers to accessing services.
* Legal and policy barriers amount to systemic discrimination against newcomers.

Key Recommendations
* Reduce processing times for family class immigration.
* Give recognized refugees automatic permanent resident status.
* Involve private sector in meeting settlement needs of newcomers.
* Require health-care, legal and educational sectors to provide professional translation and interpretation services for newcomers.
* Give settlement organizations stable, multi-year funding.

Immigrants in Hamilton
* About 3,000 immigrants settle in Hamilton each year.
* About 28 per cent of adults in Hamilton are immigrants.
* Fifty per cent of recent immigrants live below the poverty line.
* Recent immigrants are nearly three times more likely to be unemployed as non-immigrants (15.3 per cent versus 5.4 per cent).

Sources: Unsettled: Legal and Policy Barriers for Newcomers to Canada, the 2001 Census, Social Planning Research Council of Hamilton´s "Poverty Matrix", the Canadian Labour and Business Centre.

[03-09-2006,12:17]
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Anonymous
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ho hum
[03-09-2006,20:35]
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Sharon
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Sharon,

"Ho hum" is typical of your replies. You should be ashamed of yourself. Most people who come to Canada are ruined because of the experience of not finding a job and going broke...this includes women and young children.

How immoral! Maybe one day you´ll be hungry.

[04-09-2006,14:47]
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sorrow and shame on Canada
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not typical. but this exercise is getting very old. fill websites full of spam that say nothing, fill threads with posts that say the same story over and over.

anyone who is interested has already read them, admin will eventually delete the spam and immigration applicants will continue hoping for a better opportunity in Canada.

your efforts are stale, cheap and generally ho-hum.

[04-09-2006,14:57]
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Sharon
(in reply to: Only Canada born get skilled jobs)
And the efforts of the con artists, aka "immigration consultants" on here, who lie cheat and steal, are downright criminal in some cases.

Shame on you Sharon

I do not spam. You people lie, cheat and steal and have hurt many people financially, emotionally, etc


[04-09-2006,17:12]
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Anonymous
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until you have the courage to put your true name on a post - your comments are not worth crap. Unlike you, I have nothing to hide.
[04-09-2006,20:22]
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Sharon