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I am staying in Canada for the last 10 months and has recently got a Work Permit extension upto Sept 2005.
There are chances that this could further get extended depending upon the requirement of my employer.
I do not have father and my mother is dependent on me, I did not called her earlier thinking that I have to leave soon, but now I want to call my wife and my mother on a dependent VISA.
There is no problem as far as getting a dependent VISA for my wife is concerned, but I am not sure if the Canadian embassy will give my mother a dependent VISA or not
The other option was to call my mother on a tourist VISA but in that case she has to return back after her VISA expires. I want her to stay with me as long as I am here.
I do not want to end up in a situation where she ends up on hold and neither she gets a dependent VISA nor a Tourist.
Can anyone provide some information on that, or if anyone has been through the same situation.
Thanks in advance.
[01-12-2004,19:10]
Anurag Singh |
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(in reply to: Calling mother on a dependent VISA)
I believe your wife may be allowed to join you. However, you must be a Citizen or a Permanent Residence before you can invite your mother for a visit. These visitors visas are very hard to get because the government must be convinced that your mother would return to her home country at the end of her visa time. Obviously, this is not what you want. I cannot find the rules about spouses of those here on temporary work permits, but the rules around your mother coming for a visit are very clear. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/visit/index.html
[01-12-2004,19:47]
Sharon |
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Other is just to apply a visit visa. If you have property and sufficient assets in India; this should not be hard to obtain.
[01-12-2004,21:13]
Anonymous |
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Our friends problem is that according to the CIC website, he must be a citizen or Permanent Resident to issue a letter of invitation for his mother to come for a visit. He is here on a Work Permit which gives him little or no status.
[01-12-2004,21:59]
Sharon |
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That is one absurd law... You mean you come to a country - pain of leaving your loved ones behind... help in it´s progress and you can´t even enjoy a few days with your family... what sort of laws are these? Don´t the Canadians talk about these to their MPs?
[02-12-2004,00:27]
Anonymous |
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I am being a devils advocate here... I do not necessarily agree so don´t jump all over me. I suspect they (CIC) would prefer that if our temporary worker wants to visit with his mother, he can go home for a few weeks. It is easier than trying to deport her when she refuses to go home.
Do you know that in the US if you loose your job with a work permit, you have 30 days to leave the country before you become illegal!
[02-12-2004,01:09]
Sharon |
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this is a harsh perspective but I think it needs to be put out there for consideration.
people who come to Canada on a work permit come because they want to. Canada is not the only benefactor. Usually a foreign worker is making much more money than they would in their home country and therefore they make the decision that the personal sacrifice is worth the potential economic gain. Sometimes the price proves to be higher than originally thought. Nobody is force to come and nobody is forced to stay.
[02-12-2004,01:20]
sharon |
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Sharon,
Your view may be a bit conservative. Look it like this. You parents raise you and get you going to do well in life. Coming abroad to work is a big deal in some countries. More than money it is a matter of pride. Sort of saying; you have made it above the ranks. For seeing your family members come visit you to share some days together should not be a big deal.
Even you should know that most immigrants from India - don´t believe in charity work. It is considered a matter of shame to accept one. In all places they have gone; they abide by law; work hard; and don´t claim govt. benefits unless they have to (unlike we all know from some other ethnic backgrounds). So why do you say something as weird as deportation for an Indian old women who´d be just want to be with her family.
So please exercise caution and don´t mix apples and oranges. Remember what the views of an individual Canadian is - translates as a cumulative opinion of the entire country soon. I´m not criticizing your opinion - you have a right to it. All I request is that you should begin making objective opinions about immigrants. I believe you are trying to have your future spouse immigrated from a nation come under a high security alert. If few Canadians would begin making a big deal about immigrants from those countries ? soon others who know nothing about it will also just go with the flow and before you know it will translate as a unsaid rule down the ranks of immigration authorities making it difficult for anyone to immigrate from that nation.
And your finger at U.S. is wrong. U.S. believes very strongly in family ties. As far as I know; all foreign workers in the U.S. who invited their parents to visit them have been granted a 10 year visas for their parents.
The 30 day rule of U.S.? I mean what is the point of bringing that up? Of course as a temporary worker (not permanent residence). If you loose a job ? why should you be allowed to stay? You are coming in as a guest worker ? if you are not then you must return. However, we are not discussing that on this thread ? so don?t confuse the topic nor try inducing fear amongst readers about a good guest worker program of the U.S.
We are discussing about allowing family members of guest workers in Canada to visit them ? not the 30 day rule for guest workers to return from the U.S.
I always value your advice and comments on this forum and read as many as I can ? they have been very objective and thought provoking. But here I got a feeling of racial prejudice and I feel my duty to strongly oppose it and correct you on your comments. Again; I deeply admire your contribution to the forum and can?t see where the direction of this forum would be without your contribution. However; it pains me at your remarks.
I feel deportation is not the issue; the issue is the fear of burden on medical system. Well for that visitors who are granted visa should be subjected to purchasing medical insurance; sponsorship - undertaking from person inviting you; confirmed return ticket; and enough funds for your trip; and proof of ties back home.
I´m fair myself and I believe in the saying "permanent residence if a privilege and not a right"; if you are invited to stay - yes it´s an honor but if not well you must respect law of each country.
I hope we all keep our views objective.
[02-12-2004,08:18]
Anonymous |
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I did not even consider the nationality of our temporary worker when I made my posting. I really didn´t. I understand family honour and obligation. My culture is the same. He has talked about bringing his mother here as his dependent. He simply does not quaify for that priveledge with his current temporary status. CIC has set out a policy about how someone will be allowed to visit and she will have to come on her own merits. (I am unclear about his wife) We must remember something... Those of us who frequent this site are looking at the world through specific glasses. We are concerned about our rights, what we should be allowed to do, what we think is fair, how long is fair to wait etc. Not everyone sees things the way we do. The government rules are put there because they have to be. They are not helping me either in my situation. I am just offering the other side of the arguement.
[02-12-2004,13:18]
Sharon |
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Thanks a lot to all who has posted a reply to this.
I have decided to call my mother on a Tourist VISA, and I hope there won´t be any problems in that as most of my coworkers has already done that.
I have enough money in my accounts to call her on a tourist VISA, being a software engineer, I am getting a good salary and can support my wife and mother well.
My only concern was to stay with my mother as long as I am here on the work permit, may it be for 6 months or a year.
I have enough property back in India and would never want to get settled here but I think that it depends on the embassy official if he will consider it or not.
Anyways, thats not worth risk taking as she may be put on HOLD and I will end up in not staying with her.
I have decided to terminate my work permit as and when her tourist VISA gets expired.
[02-12-2004,17:27]
Anurag Singh |
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I truly hope that you are successful. It sounds like you have a good plan and I respect you for how you want to handle this.
[02-12-2004,17:59]
sharon |
