Advice on UK qualifications please

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Subject: Advice on UK qualifications please
  Hi all, I´m new to the site and would appreciate some help.

I´ve completed a few online assessments including the one on CIC website but I´m not sure on the qualifications element. I do not have a Bachelors Degree but I have completed further education during my time in work and I´m not sure what to class my qualifications as - Mine and my wife´s are as follows;

Primary Applicant (Self)
A. Primary & Secondary (High) School Education - Completed O levels and CSEs (currently GCSEs in UK)

B. BTEC Higher National Certificate (HNC) in Business Administration (Part Time) through Glamorgan Uni (Wales)

C. Diploma in Management Level 5 (Part Time) through Chartered Management Institute

D. Full Member of the Chartered Management Institute (MCMI Designation)

E. Certificate of Professional Competence Road Haulage & Management

F. Commencing MSc Management in September 2007 (Part Time).
This will lead to Post Graduate Certificate in Yr 1 (PG Cert)
Post Graduate Diploma in Yr 2 (PG Dip)
and on completion of a dissertation in yr 3 the full MSc (MSC Mgmnt) may be awarded.

Spouse
A. Primary & Secondary (High) School Education - Completed GCSEs
B. BTEC National Diploma in Travel & Tourism (Full Time)

I´m not sure (I´m checking) whether I had 12 or 13 years in school plus the time allowed for completing the above qualifications. Now, the advice please, do I attract 15 or 20 points?

I anticipate that I will attract max points for language (English) and max points for age and work experience. However, if I only get 15 points for education, I think I will come in at 65 possibly 66 points. If I get 20..........I´ll be starting the application process asap.

Thanks in advance for any help, guidance or advice you can pass on.

Regards
Mark...

[16-07-2007,18:43]
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Mark
(in reply to: Advice on UK qualifications please)
After a brief scan of youe education I would say that you all ready have "the equivilent " to a bachelor´s and when you have completed your dissertation, a Master´s. Your wife is in a filed that is in demand in Canada, namely tourism and travel .

Together, the two of you will meet and probably exceed the minimum 67 points required to be considered for immigration to Canada.

You might want to do some "online searching " in the Canadian trucking industry´s websites , to see how your past experience may be viewed here. Try looking up the Ontario Trucking Association´s website, for instance. It is the Provincial trucking industry voice in Ontario, and it has many 100´s of Trucking companies in it´s membership.

This assumes that your "Certificate of Professional Competance " in road hualage, is related to your past employment field.

You appear to be ideal Immigrant candidates for Canada. Do your home work, and find out as much as you can about the employment situations and areas that the two of your are interested in. Ever been to Canada?

Jim Bunting. Toronto.

[17-07-2007,16:57]
[**.99.152.2]
Canadian Citizen
(in reply to: Advice on UK qualifications please)
Hi Jim,

Thank you for your clear and full response. On completion of my post grad certificate in June 08, I am positive that I will have at least 14 years or equivalent full time education at Bachelors level or above. Now, the CIC website states that you have to meet the minimum requirements at the time of application. If this is the case, I think currently I only have 13.5 years full time equivalent - any thoughts?

As for work experience, a ´CPC´ in Road Haulage is a legal requirement in Transport Management. I have worked in the Logistics industry for 14 years in various Management roles including Transport Management (Secondary Multi Drop Distribution) and Logistics Supply Contract Management. I moved on from private industry 4 years ago and I now work in Local Government as a Policy & Services Manager. Basically, this role involves Traffic Management from development of traffic management objectives and policies for the County as well as the control of the County´s parking enforcement regime (a hot topic over here in the UK).

My wife did not follow a career in Travel & Tourism, she chose banking. She currently works for a large American Bank over here in the UK as an loans underwriter / analyst. She has also worked as a mortgage advisor but left this field some 5 years back.

We?re excited about the possibility of moving to Canada, especially now we have a young son and it´ll be really great to start our new life. Of course I appreciate there will be some tough times, but hey....that´s life! Although we haven?t been over yet, we are planning our 1st trip early next year. From desk top research we have narrowed our choice to 2 provinces ? Nova Scotia (I have a friend who lives in Halifax) and Ontario (not sure where yet!). My in-laws have recently returned from your native city Toronto and cannot wait to visit again, they absolutely loved it. It?s quite ironic really because my mother in law was looking for any fault in an effort to discourage us form leaving our country, but she came home and said you should do it - if I was your age there would be no hesitation!

I think the processing time at the moment for the UK is about 30-36 months so timing will be great for us with selling our house etc. I just need to make sure that I achieve that minimum 67 before I submit my application.

Any advice you or anyone else can pass on will be very much appreciated.

Kindest regards
Mark...

[17-07-2007,18:23]
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Mark
(in reply to: Advice on UK qualifications please)
NO USE. U HAVE TO START ALL OVER AGAIN. CANADA DOESNT RECOGNISE EDUCATION OBTAINED OUTSIDE CANADA. GOOD LUCK AND WELCOME TO CANADA.
[18-07-2007,02:01]
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Anonymous
Thanks for the details, Mark. (in reply to: Advice on UK qualifications please)
Mark:

Thanks for your detailed reply. Perhaps you would be more comfortable using my private e-mail address to continue this discussion.

Let me make one thing clear. I´m NOT a Immigration lawyer or a registered Immigration Consultant. I´m a Canadian citizen , retired after a 30 year career in the Canadian Forces as a Military Police investigator. My expertise is in the area of "life in Canada" and how to find out information re the Immigration process.

You can contact me at jimbunting@rogers.com

From your information I suggest that you should be looking at employment with either a Provincial Ministry of Transport, or a municipal governmententity, like the city of Toronto, or one of the surrounding regional municipalities that are located near Toronto, or Halifax.

Your wife will find that the banking industry in Canada is very similar to what she is used to in the UK. She should investigate the chance of a transfer to Canada, with her US employer, if they operate in Canada, as well. That is done quite often and it can make the process much simpler. If that was to happen, YOU would get a spouse´s working visa as well, to come with her to Canada.

Remember that the two of you are miles ahead of many applicants who want to come to Canada, in that you don´t need to learn a new langauge, and our society is very similar to the one that you live in now. Your educational standings are easilly proven and accepted, unlike many others who come here with dubious credentials.

Jim Bunting. Toronto.

[18-07-2007,15:14]
[**.99.152.2]
Canadian Citizen
(in reply to: Advice on UK qualifications please)
Once again Jim, thanks for your advice. I will PM you.
[18-07-2007,18:09]
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Mark
(in reply to: Advice on UK qualifications please)
No offence, but one of the previous posters was right. Unless you have a Canadian diploma or degree, you won´t get hired by a Canadian employer. You might pass immigration but I almost guarantee that you will find it hard to get a job here. After all, why hire someone with unknown qualifications (esp. a degree - no-one knows what a BTEC/HND type thing is here) when there are plenty in Canada from known and reputable Canadian universities?

Good luck trying, but let us know how you get on as I am certain (as a Brit who fought hard to get and stay here) you´ll run into problems...

[19-07-2007,22:25]
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L
(in reply to: Advice on UK qualifications please)
So what your saying is ´L´, no matter what Senior Management experience I may have, with many transferable skills gained in my various roles with an international blue chip company and local government counts for nothing? Unless I have a degree which is no reflection on skills and managerial skills, I will find it very difficult if not impossible to find a ´decent´ job.
I am commencing my Masters study in September, so all being well I will have attained at least a Post Graduate Certificate if not Post Grad Diploma within the next 2 years.
Do university transcripts not give employers and idea of what a HND is?
Did you find work in the end, what field are you in - how did you overcome your problems - would you do it all again?

[20-07-2007,05:34]
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Mark
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