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my first comment:D
im a student studying architectural engineering in scotland and am desperate to leave for canada when I finnish my degree. Wondering whether u need to be a citezen to join the public sector like the police or fire departments. If so how long does it normally take and what would i need to do? I´m being serious.
thanks
[31-07-2007,15:43]
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Ciaran |
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Please be more specific about your plans (in reply to: Specific plan)
Hello:
I´ll answer in two parts. In order to be a Police constable in Canada, you must be either a Canadian citizen or a Permanent Resident status holder. Same thing for the Fire service. Unless you have been employed as one of those in the UK, you will have no advantage over other applicants who also have no previous specific experience as a copper or a firefighter.
For other public service postions, either Federal Provincial, or municipal, the same applies. A citizen, and a PR status person are considered to be equal, in terms of hiring for a position here in Canada.
Now for my question......Are you not planning on using your educational acheivments in Canada? I should think that this country can use a few more architectural engineers, after all we are still building this country, and will be for the forseeable future.
The best plan is to come here as a visitor ( UK citizens do not need visa to enter Canada ) and see for your self what it is like in Canada. With the really low/ cheap air fares now, it can be cheaper than 10 days in Spain.
Do your research first about where in this vast country ( second largest in the world ) to look around. If you are a single guy, think about spending the first few years in the far north, where the pay is amazing and you can´t spend much money in a isolated working location. Work for 3 months at a time, then they fly you out for a 3 week "time out " . With your degree, you should be able to make more than 40,000 pounds a year here, to start. And of course you don´t need to learn a new language, either, unlike the middle east or africa.
Your thoughts?
Jim B. Toronto.
[01-08-2007,10:31]
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(in reply to: Specific plan)
For the Federal jobs, PR can apply, however preference is given to the Canadian Citizens first.
[01-08-2007,10:44]
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Reply to jim (in reply to: Specific plan)
thanks a lot for the info, To be honest, I have only realsed over the summer that my old ambition to earn loads of money was kind of blind in reality. I know using my education seems logical, and i will have to use it to get a job before i get PR, and i always thought that i was sure its what i wanted. but this summer, i realised that what i really want is to make a difference. i look at my dad and my grandfather, friends of the family. all of whom have been firefighters and i reallised why they were. because no matter how many real-life problems they had. for the hours they were working they knew that they were doing something great.
I was actually thinking about coming to either toronto or vancouver, it doesnt matter really as long i get away from here :)
[01-08-2007,12:13]
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Ciaran |
Here is the website for Toronto Fire employment (in reply to: Specific plan)
Ciaran:
OK if you want to toss the University degree in the bin......Just remember how many youg guys would kill you for the chance to actually GO to a university.......
In any case, to be accepted for ANY major city in Canada´s fire services, you will be one of HUNDREDS trying out for the few number of annual vacancies. You had better be stronger than superman and able to climb like spiderman, and have the smarts to be "promotable ´ as well.
The rewards are good, the Toronto Fire service starts a "rookie " at about 22,000 BPS a year, and at 5 years that guy is making about 35,000 BPS a year plus overtime and benefits. BUT they have a very high risk for cancer, of all types, and heart attacks at a young age. Add to that the risks of toxic smoke and hazardous materials, and it´s not my type of job, and I was a soldier for many years, so I do know about hazards to life.
If you are still interested here is their website,
http://www.toronto.ca/fire/recruitment/index.htm
Most people take a one year "fire fighters preperation course" before they try to get hired on. Thats at your own expense, but it really does help you to learn the needed skills that they wil test you on, and not just the physical conditioning abilities. The testing is in three parts, physical, mental stability , and training/ education about fire fighting and such things as structures/construction and hydrualics.
Perhaps your education might be helpfull as a fire prevention officer, to conduct inspections of new buidlings and public education programs. You would still need to go thru the fire academy, first.
Jim B.
[01-08-2007,16:30]
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Specific plan (in reply to: Specific plan)
Im not ruling out the possibility of a career in the construction buisness. On a broader scale, how long does it normally take from the time i apply for pr to actually moving to canada? i understand that i have to have a job line up before i go.
[03-08-2007,08:30]
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Ciaran |
Two paths to follow (in reply to: Specific plan)
Ciaran:
There are three paths to take, to get to Canada. First is the "working visa " that requires that you to have a specific employment position lined up with a Canadian employer, before you apply for a tempoary visa to work here. Hard to do, as most employers here want people that can start soon, not in a year´s time.
The second path is the Permanent Resident card, which takes longer to get, but it allows you to come to Canada, and go wherever you like and apply for any position that you are qualified to fill. Current time lines for getting a PR in the UK are 3 to 4 years from start to finish. With a PR card , you can live in Canada for as long as you want.
A third path, is the Provincial Nomination Program. This involves you being assisted by one of the individual Provinces, to come to work in that specific Province, to fill employment vacancies there.
The PNP can be very helpfull, as it connects you to a specific need and the Province gives you a " helping hand " with the Federal Immigration ministry´s paperwork. Being sponsored by the PNP can greatly reduce the waiting times for your being accepted to come here. I would underline that this PNP system is designed for those that have specific skills and or education. In other words, finish your degree !!!
Your thoughts ?
If you would like to continue this conversation off line, send to my email at jimbunting@rogers.com
Jim B.
[03-08-2007,10:22]
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