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Is there anything illegal about turning in your perm res application and then in 2 months try and visit for six months?
I have my wife who is my Representative... so I would know what is going on in my case processing. I would not stay more than 6 months (as a visitor isn´t allowed more).
But are border officials informed about persons who apply for Perm Res and would they stop someone from entering? Not only that, but would it endanger the application itself?
As always, I really do appreciate anyone´s help.
Randy
[22-09-2007,22:59]
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Randy C. |
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(in reply to: is it... LEGAL to visit canada while PR app goes?)
A temporary resident visa and permanent resident visa are two different things. If you have a temporary resident visa, also called the visit visa, you should not have any trouble visiting or having it count against you.
[23-09-2007,00:10]
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newbie |
(in reply to: is it... LEGAL to visit canada while PR app goes?)
However, going to Canada to ´temporarily´ visit your wife will be a tough sell at the border especially when you have declared your full intentions to live there permanently.
[23-09-2007,02:58]
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sharon |
(in reply to: is it... LEGAL to visit canada while PR app goes?)
I never have any problem going to Canada for visit, especially to my Canadian spouse. I´m not required to have a visa anyway and allowed to stay in Canada up to six months per year (that´s for US citizens). Right now I´m a student on student permit.
As long as you tell them how long it will be and why (they´ll ask that anyway), and I think you´ll be fine. You´re quite free to visit Canada while your out-land application is in process.
[23-09-2007,04:02]
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Jack |
(in reply to: is it... LEGAL to visit canada while PR app goes?)
Randy, Randy, Randy
When you post a question do not hide the details.
Why would one pay for a spousal sponsorship application then want to cancel same. CANADIAN DOLLAR NOW AT PAR!
We have an advertisement on TV here were a guy bids then raises his bid time and again until he buys a painting at an auction. Then he stands up quickly and says he wants to sell the thing he just bought. Is this character you?
Lets assume your thinking of the following.
Submit an overseas spousal sponsorship.
Two months later cancel the overseas sponsorship because you miss her too much and can´t stand to be apart.
Apply for a visitor visa two months after that so you can be with your partner. Show up at the Port of Entry implying you only have an intention to remain for a short period of time-----
Once in Canada resubmit a spousal sponsorship but this time InLand sponsorship.
Your results are based on which country your from.
LETS ASSUME YOUR AN AMERICAN!
Spousal sponsorships outside of Canada processed through Buffalo RPC average six months.
----From your posting one can guess yours has been in for a few months.
There is nothing (illegal) about applying then withdrawing spousal sponsorships! Your partner normally does this due to a marriage breakdown/silly arguement etc.
Visiting Canada requires a reason to visit and a reason to return to your own country.
*****Lets see yur wife just cancelled your spousal sponsorship, who would you be visiting? LOL
Would the CBSA officer have concerns that you might have had a domestic dispute with your partner and are bringing a gun to finish the arguement? What about you not being a genuine visitor-----hmmmm probably!
You could get admitted and everything could go perfectly but the best laid plans of mice and men can go astray.
If she is worth it, WAIT!
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[23-09-2007,10:03]
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Roy |
so much red tape.... (in reply to: is it... LEGAL to visit canada while PR app goes?)
Roy, I am american. I would like the perm res app to go through, unharmed. Im not trying to pull the wool over anyones eyes here. I married to a woman, and I would like to spend my life with her.
Does the border not realize that? why are people always guilty until proven innocent? I am not revoking any applications, especially if we already paid the $1,000 fees total... and im sure were not done paying for extra shit.
I am american. my wife is canadian. we live 14 hours away from eachother.
we decided that around October 20th or so, I will drive up to her and then we will drive back a day before (american) Thanksgiving, so she can see some of my family again.
why do i need a visitor / temp visa for that?
[23-09-2007,12:40]
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Randy C. |
(in reply to: is it... LEGAL to visit canada while PR app goes?)
here is what the border realizes - percentages are my own personal theory and are not intended to provoke a fight with anyone!
99.9 percent of all spouses think they are hard done by and think the application process takes too long. That same 99.9% of all spouses think they are above Canadian immigration law because they are special.
90% of all spouses would remain in Canada during the application process if given the opportunity.
50% of those outland applications would consider selective information at the border to make that happen.
Randy, the story you present above reads very differently from your initial question. If you are indeed American, and you present your plans to the border officer as you have stated them here - I would think you have a reasonable chance of success. But what is the nonsense about turning in a permanent visa, and then asking for a visitors visa.
At that point Roy´s response is the only one that makes sense.
[23-09-2007,13:56]
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sharon |
(in reply to: is it... LEGAL to visit canada while PR app goes?)
United States of America does not need a visitor visa.
My initial question was the legality of visiting canada -- NOT WITH AN INTENT TO ILLEGALLY LIVE.-- but to visit for 6 months. I wanted to know whether or not it could harm my application from going through.
I dont know where you get your statistics... but your probably right. Im sure that more than 90% of married couples would like to sleep in the same bed at night.
I understand it takes time. My quarrel isnt with the process. my question was just about "VISITING" and whether or not it is legal to visit for 6 months while the application goes through.
I did find out that united states of america is among the list who does not need a visitor visa. And I do not wish to pay for a temp res visa, as we do not have the funds for that. So, I will visit without either.
It is not illegal, but if they need, i still have "ties" in my "home country" by having a crappy job and having mail addressed to my parents... blah blah...
[23-09-2007,14:21]
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Randy C. |
(in reply to: is it... LEGAL to visit canada while PR app goes?)
so, forget the nonsense about withdrawing an application so you can increase your chances of getting to see your wife. You may not need a visa, but you still have to satisfy a border official about the purpose of your visit. He can turn you down and send you home as easily as the embassy that issues the visa. All you are saving is a second layer of approval.
Tell the truth about your intentions, show the application letter, show your intent to return, your ties to home, look the officer in the eye, and say a little prayer. That is your best option. You also need to be mentally prepared to be turned down.
Lying and getting caught at it, (and they do) is the part that can mess up that application of yours. A withdrawn application will still show up in the system so that who idea of your first strategy is a bad one- especially if you get caught lying about it.
[23-09-2007,14:36]
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sharon |
(in reply to: is it... LEGAL to visit canada while PR app goes?)
Randy,
As an American, just show your U.S. passport and you´ll be fine. State (truthfully) that you´re visiting Canada as a tourist. That´s what I did (U.S. citizen) during my application process when I visited Canada. It´s perfectly legal and above board to visit while application is in process.
I really don´t know what all this other hoopla and excitement is about with this.
[23-09-2007,20:29]
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Richard |
(in reply to: is it... LEGAL to visit canada while PR app goes?)
the hoppla is only about the scenario outlined in the opening post. It was an invitation to disaster. You are right Richard, do it straight up and be done with it.
[23-09-2007,21:29]
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sharon |
