How foreign BS degree is treated in Canada.

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Subject: How foreign BS degree is treated in Canada.
  Dear sir/madam,
I intend to upgrade my CV by finishing degree in computer science. I live in Israel and can choose between going to some Israeli college or to the extenstion of an American University "Clark" (www.clarku.edu). In either way the degree is foreign in Canada...
I´d like to know the following:
1. Is foreign degree "counted" in Canada?
2. Is there any preference for the American degree over the Israeli?
Thanks a lot in advance.

[09-10-2007,19:44]
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Alexander
(in reply to: How foreign BS degree is treated in Canada.)
If you want to know whether your degree will be considered as a "Degree" in Canada; YES. Good News. It will be considered as a degree. If not directly recognized, you at least can evaluated that by Canadian standard.

HOWEVER, most likely this degree will be in no use other than to oursue for higher studies in Canada. Possibility of using that degree to find related jobs is very slim, unless you have special luck or some influencial help.

This holds true for any degree, American/Israeli doesn´t matter. Professional job marker is very small in Canada w.r.to the no. of applicants.

[09-10-2007,22:25]
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Departed_Canadian
(in reply to: How foreign BS degree is treated in Canada.)
The job market is the best it has been in thirty years. Unemployment rate is very low and the Canadian dollar is soaring above the US dollar.

In theory all must be treated equally but those educated in a foreign language in a country that few Immigrants come from or employers have knowledge in of course it may not be recognized as the same but your from Isreal.

Most ethnic groups in Canada have always taken care of their own. The Portuguese are doing it in the construction Industry, Iranians in used cars etc., Indian in farming, high tech and Banking, Russian in Import Export etc. etc.

Now your from Isreal, I doubt you would be able to find one Jewish Law Firm, Dentist or Banker or Business in Canada. Then again you could be a Muslim from Isreal and you just blew this pigeon holing out of the water. LOL

Relax you will be fine.

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[10-10-2007,10:35]
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Roy
(in reply to: How foreign BS degree is treated in Canada.)
Hi Roy,
I was just wondering how is the IT market job availability now compared to the general job market, which you said is the best in past 30 years.
Also, what is the implication of your statement ? That in the past 30 yrs its the best situation now to find ANY job ? I mean it was a very general statement you made eh ?

[10-10-2007,11:39]
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Raj
(in reply to: How foreign BS degree is treated in Canada.)
True that Canada has 30 years lowest unemployment rate now. That is a very gross statement to me. I didn´t find any relationship of this 30 years lowest with the high- tech job demand. To me, it may be comparing boiling water with burning fire.

It is not like that job market will suddenly boom with the dollar value hike. If so, it´ll take some more years...
Loonie was also strong in the past. From 1952 to 1960, the Canadian dollar traded at a slight premium over the U.S. dollar, reaching a high of US$1.0614 on August 20 1957
Was the job market very different then? Did Americans use to come Canada looking for jobs?

Still this 30 years lowest unemployment is higher than USA, UK, France, Norway..Sweden..Australia...(similar countries except Germany/Italy). Believe it or not, all of those countries except USA/Australia has internal birth rate (without Immigration) lower than Canada. Some even has 0. However, they don´t feel ´Skill Shortage" or declining popualtion.

[10-10-2007,12:15]
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Departed_Canadian
(in reply to: How foreign BS degree is treated in Canada.)
Good observation and/or research Departed...
My pet peeve is just these generic statements that the officials and agencies come up with to satisfy the general public... If you are educated enough, you would know to read between the lines and if you really start to dig deep into it, you will be surprised at some of the results.
A good example is that of the housing industry in the US, anyway.... later !!

[10-10-2007,15:15]
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Raj
(in reply to: How foreign BS degree is treated in Canada.)
Thanks Raj. This is my whole point.

Educated people should do little proper research and speak about the truth. If just because of being citizen of a country someone blindly supports all of it´s policies then I only could feel sorry for him. He is also not helping his country, doing exactly the opposite.

The more you do research on the rationale of point system immigration, the more you´ll learn that something must be very wrong.

[10-10-2007,15:36]
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Departed_Canadian
Canadian Job Market (in reply to: How foreign BS degree is treated in Canada.)
Roy is right - in general, this is the best job market in 50 years (and I remember the 60´s!) However, it is not uniform. The job market in Western Canada is better than at any time in Canadian history, in all areas, while I wouldn´t want to be looking for work in the manufacturing industry in Central Canada, or be an accountant, marketer, or HR manager looking for work in Toronto. All that being said, demographics is telling us that some 6 million Canadians will be retiring in the next 10 years, meaning 30 - 40% of the current workforce. This is not some generic government policy, it is an absolute truth in a variable world. Unfortunately, the Canadian Skilled Worker selection system has recently allowed the immigration of huge numbers of professionals to the wrong areas of Canada, so we are hearing many stories of desparate job seekers. The stories are real, but the situation will change in the next few tears. It already is in the IT sector, as more and more Canadian citizen IT workers head to the U.S. as the only foreign workers available, now that H-1Bs are impossible to get.
[10-10-2007,17:17]
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Phil
(in reply to: How foreign BS degree is treated in Canada.)
Canada should better start thinking about how can they retain their own brains inside rather than importing from outside.

Well, millions are retiring by the next 10 years..but how many of them are the class we are concerned here (ie., University Educated ones)?

The statistics shows that residents of BC have the highest rate of exodus (http://www.statcan.ca/english/research/11F0019MIE/11F0019MIE2006288.htm).

It may be changing now, but in what extent? More importantly for whom?

Now lets have a look at a recent news:

B.C. leads Canada in going global

Survey finds British Columbians most likely to travel abroad to work and live

Miro Cernetig, Vancouver Sun
Published: Monday, October 01, 2007

If you need a sign that Vancouver is truly becoming a global city, just look up at about six o´clock tonight. You may see a red-and-white Boeing 747 heading toward the sunset, the flagship of a new Hong Kong airline that has chosen Vancouver as one of its first international destinations.

Oasis Hong Kong Airlines has been filling that flight to about 90-per-cent capacity in its first three months of operations, a load rate that would have most airline CEOs salivating. More remarkable is that every Oasis jumbo jet has 81 business-class seats, one of the biggest luxury cabins in the sky today.

A good question is just who is filling up all those seats?


Part of the answer will be given today by the Asia Pacific Foundation, a think-tank on Canada´s relations with Asia. It is releasing a survey estimating there are more than 550,000 British Columbians living and working overseas. Not only that, British Columbians seem to be markedly more inclined than other Canadians to go abroad, suggesting we are indeed developing a more global outlook here on the West Coast.

First, however, here are the stunning numbers. There are about 2.7 million Canadians living abroad. That represents about 8.3 per cent of our population, making Canadians one of the most significant diasporas in the world.

This means that Canadians, on a per capita basis, are about twice as likely as an Australian, three times more likely than an American and four times more likely than a citizen of India to embrace a global life. (I WOULD ASK EVERYBODY TO THINK WHY IT IS SO?)

Where do all these overseas Canucks go? About 1.2 million are in the U.S., about 270,000 in Hong Kong, another 378,000 in the rest of Asia and 486,000 are in Europe. The remaining 378,000 are scattered around countries in South America and Africa and the Caribbean.

But here´s where things get even more interesting.

Vancouver´s Asia Pacific Foundation has taken the first survey of Canadians living in the U.S. and Asia, about 1.8 million members of our 2.7-million-person Canadian diaspora.


So I can´t be that optimistic about the BC or western Canada rapid development stories. Developments are there, no doubt, but not in that extent.

Huge no. of professionals in wrong areas of Canada? That´s why the job probelm? Don´t think so. We are not in the 80´s anymore. Someone doesn´t have to be in a certain province or city for job hunting. Internet makes the world smaller. How can many thousands of the Canadian professionals every year hunt jobs in the USA from Canada?

[10-10-2007,17:43]
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Departed_Canadian
(in reply to: How foreign BS degree is treated in Canada.)
Ha Ha.... Departed... cool article.... BUT HEY...... like Phil said it before.....

In general, this is the best job market in 50 years.... you are going to hear this beat in the papers and the media again and again !!!
If they go ahead and tell the truth, who is going to migrate to Canada ????



[10-10-2007,19:16]
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Raj
(in reply to: How foreign BS degree is treated in Canada.)
When I first came to know that it is the best market in 30 or 50 years I started to think what else could be worse than this!

Though, I never believe that Canada will have any problem of immigrants regardless of job problems. It is still one of the best countries to live; only catch is you have to forget about the career if you are an University educated professionals.

That´s why I think the Govt. must be honest to acknowledge the reality and shouldn´t spread false hope. Citizens should press their Govt. to do so rather than encouraging.

[10-10-2007,19:38]
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Departed_Canadian