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Hi Balwant,
Where do CIC or refugee board IRB normally keep the file of refugee applicants? I believe it should be central or I mean in one central place, not provincial. This is because the refugees, on arrival to POE, would not normally know Canada or where to stay. Or do IRB move the files to local provincial office where the refugee applicants chose to settle?
[26-10-2007,20:51]
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SutarB |
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(in reply to: Q to Balwant re: refugee file)
It never concerned me where the files are kept but all the hearings for my cases are done at 74 Victoria Street, Toronto and all correspondence are done at this address.
I assume the files may be kept there.
However, I normally file new claims at the Etobicoke centre. This is where the initial interview takes place.
It is likely as you stated that files are kept at the Provincial office where the refugee chose to settle.
www.canadaimmigrationbpa.com
[26-10-2007,22:17]
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Balwant |
(in reply to: Q to Balwant re: refugee file)
SutarB
To access your own refugee file SutarB is a complex question. The issue is which file are you referring to?
Are you requesting your own Refugee Immigration file when you entered at the Port of Entry and made your Refugee claim?
Are you seeking your Refugee file held by CIC when you did not make your refugee claim at the Port of Entry or InLand like Mr. Persaud mentioned when you were found to have a basis to make a claim?
Could you be attempting to get a certified true copy of any Identity documents of yours that was surrendered when you made your refugee claim? They are normally held at the local enforcement CBSA office responsible for the area where you first made your Refugee Claim.
CIC at the time you made your claim would have given you a PIF Personal Information Form to complete for the Immigration and Refugee Board IRB there would have been an address to mail your completed PIF to which is where your IRB file is located.
If you have moved since you came to Canada to make your Refugee claim you can request your IRB file be transferred which is up to the IRB to approve or decline.
Google IRB and then locate the nearest office to where you entered Canada or made your refugee claim and contact that office regarding your file.
IF IT HAS BEEN SOME TIME SutarB since you made your refugee claim it may have been abandoned.
Sorry but that is the way it is.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[27-10-2007,09:31]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Q to Balwant re: refugee file)
Roy
Very good morning to you. After reading your reply I said "what a nice day". Roy, I swear I am not a refugee. I am Canadian. However your post is great as you offered valuable information. For the sake of our local community and of course the sake of our generous Canada, we are trying to solve this mysterious case. According to the valuable information you provided, the person in question is likely to have crossed to Canada illegally. I do not know if you have followed the full story. The ex and current husbands are from our local community. The lady in the mess is from south America. The ex (who sponsored her to Canada) was still asking for his own belongings from her (money, car.. etc). It seems that she betrayed him somehow. The current husband beyond any doubt tricked the woman for papers and immigration (that is true even if he could/can get away with it). He had been also illegal in US for long period. He arrived in Canada in a mysterious condition and got married a few months before the third safe country treaty took effect. The ex husband suspected the case and out of anger he reported the matter to the federal and local CIC, Alberta. All waht we know is that he has a file in Alberta and that his file was examined extensively by CIC, CBSA, RCMP. Has he got a chance to apply under family spouse with the new change of law? we do not know. This is a real case, no joke. I am not personally involved in any revenge or personal score settlement. We just want peace to the local community and also we hate if anyone, from us or anywhere else, takes advantage of Canada. That is all.
Thanks a lot
[27-10-2007,12:16]
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SutarB |
(in reply to: Q to Balwant re: refugee file)
SutarB
I really thought you were a refugee claimant! Why do you not know about PIPEDA if your a Canadian?
If a Judge finds one innocent their innocent. You know we have a Charter of Rights and Freedoms.
If you have probative evidence someone was found to be a refugee claimant on false evidence inform the IRB. If you are wrong be prepared to spend some time behind bars yourself. This is not the forum for your no detail information.
Vengance is mine says the Lord, comes to mind.
I post to try to answer questions for people who can not easily contact CIC, CBSA or IRB now that I know your not one of these people I will never respond to your posts again.
Roy
[27-10-2007,19:30]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Q to Balwant re: refugee file)
Roy
You made my day again. Do you think a refugee would come here to ask you "where is his/her file located Mr Roy?"
I am always here and there to help genuine new immigrants for free. I had received help during my immigration process and I am paying back. No mines ..no Vengance. Even in this complicated story, we as local community have been trying our best to contain the matter with minimum damage to all parties.
I am sorry as I noticed you´ve beome moody lately. Is it from Balwant or a woman behind it? We have one thing in common; my wife and yours are both Ukranians. Sometimes though loving and lovely, they can drive you crazy.
Have a good evening.
[27-10-2007,20:23]
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SutarB |
(in reply to: Q to Balwant re: refugee file)
actually, yes. In my history here Refugee claimants have come around and asked some pretty bizarre questions. As well, imposter posters have come around with fake stories to either get assistance (because they themselves are consultants) or to entrap someone ´official´ here into giving wrong information so they can make a big noise.
3rd party question are always a struggle. there is no way to give an appropriate answer because there is no way to verify the information. Given the amount of suspicion you throw around this forum, one has to wonder what level of truth is coming from you. Famous saying - ´it takes one to know one´????
BTW, what makes you think Roy´s wife is Ukrainian?
[27-10-2007,22:38]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Q to Balwant re: refugee file)
sharon
I am not an immigration lawyer or consultant. I only answer the questions I know about.
Roy himself, in one of his posts, told us of his marriage to the Ukranian and I replied telling him the same.
The story I have told you here is real. Since we (me and u) made the deal you have withdrawn. I do not like fiction and do not have brain or time for this kind of weird stories. I left for you to practice.
It seems that you can not survive without fishing and drama. So enjoy.
[27-10-2007,23:00]
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SutarB |
(in reply to: Q to Balwant re: refugee file)
I have been around all week... not sure what you are talking about.
[28-10-2007,00:55]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Q to Balwant re: refugee file)
SutarB
If someone enters Canada and is found eligable to make a refugee claim that is a decision made by a CIC officer based on reasons and laws.
If that same person shortly after entering Canada finds someone willing to marry them for what ever reason good for them, may they live happily ever after.
If that same person is GIVEN Refugee status after presenting their personal situation of what they believe to be a well founded fear of persecution congradulations!
If that same person is not able to convince the IRB member they have a well founded fear of persecution, too bad!
If their partner submits a spousal sponsorship on their behalf and they win may they live in Canada happily forever!
If their partner submits a spousal sponsorship and they are not successful, sorry goodbye!
EITHER WAY JUSTICE HAS BEEN SERVED.
In Ukraine they would kill you for what you are trying to do whether your actions are legitimate or not! Everyone in Ukraine is on a project. Few of the new rich in Ukraine or anywhere in the former Soviet Union have made their money legally. Corruption is everywhere there!
Is the woman involved in your scenario a former mistress that no longer desires you? You and your community (me and my community, me and my community) yet you claim you married someone out of your community. Did this person oppose your marriage to your Ukrainian partner? Your seeking vengance for a reason and not saying why.
BEST ADVICE---LIVE AND LET LIVE!
LET´S TAKE YOUR SCENARIO FOR THE LAST TIME. HE GOT LANDED BY BEATING THE SYSTEM. MOST HERE ON THIS FORUM ARE TRYING TO BEND THE RULES A LITTLE IN THEIR FAVOUR. IF YOUR RIGHT THIS GUY BENT THEM MORE, SO WHAT! MANY MORE HAVE RECEIVED WELL DESERVED PROTECTION BECAUSE OF THE SYSTEM THEN ANYONE BEING REFUSED PROTECTION.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[28-10-2007,10:28]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Q to Balwant re: refugee file)
Roy,
Thanks for the time anyway.
First of all you did not read the story from the start. So, your comment is not counted or considred. I am not part of this conflict by any mean. All Ukrain, not only our wives, is not part of this story by any mean.
The statements, theories, and scenarios you are making above are all known. We know all about but we also thank you for reminder.
In short, this is a true story in which I strongly now believe that someone entered Canada illegally and tried to take advantage of the system. He is unlikely to be a refugee claimant (according to your own scenario above). If he and his spouse did not cause damage to others, knowingly, we would have left everything away to the hand of law and regulation. It has affected others. Some members or neighbours were called by RCMP and CIC to make statements. At one discussion point with sharon I offered to provide the proof of this story and accepted Roy as the fair independant third party. If I come with this story to this forum for further explanation, then this is not a crime. If you did not like it you could have ignored. For your assurance, I am not and will not work in the immigration business. I did not/do not/will not assist any other immigration business. Is this of enough assurance?
sharon,
For the expected prospective headaches, I addressed this story from the very beginning to BALWANT. It was my polite reminder for you to keep away. Again you can not survive without creation of trouble. It is addiction, I am afraid.
[28-10-2007,11:03]
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SutarB |
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