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Richard: Yes, I´m feeling the same as you, that moving north for Americans is a major financial hit. As we helplessly watch one country, and possibly both, head toward a recession, we are finding it more difficult to justify such a move.
I am glad that Bob is enjoying Vancouver Island; I can only imagine how beautiful it must be. Geographical isolation is a major factor for possibly ruling out Halifax for us; I grew up on the West Coast and always hated being so far away from everything "interesting", and while everything around Halifax is exotic and most definitely interesting to us, I wonder if we´d get restless. So one appeal of various parts of Ontario is that it seems central to so many things that we love. Not sure we want to be stuck on a coast, either one. Like you, too, it seems more accessible from here, a positive for both moving and the inevitable trips back for ailing parents and other responsibilities.
DC: I think many Americans face the difficulty of leaving relative stability for the unknown. It is quite difficult (though not impossible) to get a job from down here, and from an employer standpoint, it is understandable. We actually did lose out on a job offer because the employer was concerned we might not like it in Canada and decide to move back. Fair enough. So it does come down to making a choice: move and then find a job, or try to find a job and move to wherever it might be. We´ve tried the second way, only to find most of opportunities in areas we really don´t want to live in. And if you are in decent, stable situation to begin with, the first option seems pretty tough to swallow, particularly given the current economic uneasiness. Richard said it very well, that there really has to be other factors to make immigrating worthwhile "for guys like us" (ha ha). I have no doubt that for all the Americans here there are many other factors that entice us to immigrate; threats of recession just force us to evaluate those motivations even more.
[07-11-2007,16:15]
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wannabecanadian |
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Well said, wannabe. And looks like Ontario´s a stronger possibility for you too for reasons mentioned.
Agree with DC that finding a job first is preferable. But to DC´s advice, how to handle the reluctance of employers to hire candidates (Canada PRs no less) living in the U.S. at the moment and not in Canada?
In any event, we have 3 years from landing to move, so we could wait out the bad economic climate. But even though this might last a few years, people do want to move on with their lives. So it´s a bit of a crunch time.
(Hope Sharon doesn´t chime in with 1.11 or worse (smile).)
[07-11-2007,17:14]
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Richard |
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Wannabe and Richard,
I didn´t mean that you should start looking for jobs from the USA. As you have decided your mind, better to move there ASAP. I was very curious, say if you want to settle in Halifax (Richard had that also in his list), can yoy expect IT jobs there? Definitely not. Don´t know wannabe´s profession though.
If I were you, then I would go to the city/province which is the hot spot for my profession rather than moving buying home somehere that is unlikely to warrant me a job.
As far as I know (never been there), Vancouver is one of the greatest city in the world (may be best!). However, that doesn´t mean I should move there. After all, nice natural view won´t pay my bills, end meets.
Anyway, I know both of you guys have done a lot of research and have your own game plan.
[07-11-2007,17:41]
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Departed_Canadian |
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My Chinese colleague (US Citizen) was complaining the other day that all the flights that she wanted to get to China were full starting the 2nd week of December through the end of the year. The reason she mentioned was that there was heavy traffic between US/Canada to Hong Kong during that period, seems like lots of Canadians come back here for Thanksgiving/Xmas and then go back to HK in the new year. She wanted to book out of New York but it seems like lots of people travel from Canada to NY and then catch the flight to HK/Singapore from NY. I guess that tells us one thing.... we need more flights in that route for sure in the future.
[07-11-2007,17:41]
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Raj |
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she closed slightly over 1.07 but things are very skitish.
[07-11-2007,19:22]
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sharon |
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Very Interesting. I searched CNN this afternoon - the currency crisis is not even on the radar! They are more concerned about the stock market. This quote is buried in a long article in the business secion.
"And the battered greenback continued to slide to a new record low against the euro, while the dollar also fell sharply against the yen."
Must be an election year.
[07-11-2007,20:05]
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sharon |
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Stock market diving, dollar record low, housing and banking crisis, health care meltdown, Iraq war without end, neo-conservatives in power. This should be enough motivation to move (flee) to Canada (from U.S.).
Just waiting for DC to change his mind.
[07-11-2007,21:22]
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Richard |
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DC won´t change his mind. He will settle in USA if everything goes well for him.
So you guys experts, is it a silly question to ask HOW LONG the dollar will keep a low profile ? I am not knowledgable about the stock market and all that ... do you think that the dollar will grow up again anytime soon. I am worried when it is time for currency exchange ... the wrong way! :(
[07-11-2007,22:53]
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CBV333 |
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Ha ha
Richard,
How did you forget about US high crime rate?
CB is absolutely correct. No possibility of mind changing, unless not lietarally kicked out. In that case I´ll either explore a new continent or just go back to where I was from.
Theoretically US was never better, problem is I don´t believe just theories only anymore. I had to pay too much from just one previous mistake.
CBV, Not before the next president election US diollar will increase. Not sure the Canadian though, it should remain like this for a while.
[07-11-2007,23:21]
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Departed_Canadian |
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they are saying tonight that the US dollar has gone down 12% to the rest of the worlds major currencies but the Canadian dollar is too high by about 10%.
so the bigger question is, how is the Canadian dollar holding up against the Euro. If we are about right, well...the US can be happy that its products will be more affordable to the rest of the world.
It is all cyclical.
[07-11-2007,23:52]
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Sharon |
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Since I started this whole topic, will close out.
Good point about CDN$ vs. Euro and other currencies. Based on what Sharon reports, looks like there´s to be more pressure on pushing CDN$ down vs. US$. Some slight good news for those PRs stateside planning to move North.
On the business channel (U.S.) just now, lots of talk about what to do about the US$ situation. Finally, this low level is considered unhealthy even for the domestic economy, despite attractive world export prices. Problem is US$ starting to slip as prime worldwide currency (as noted earlier with China).
We´ll see what devolops.
Note to DC. Higher crime, yes, but oh those fabulous jobs everwhere just waiting more that makes up for everything. I can hardly wait for my employer here to grant or take away my health care whenever they choose. Talk about slavery - ha!
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