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Dear All,
I am a Ph.D. student in the Dept. of Computer Science and I received an M.S. degree in Computer Science too in the US. I also work as a graduate assistant since 2004.
I applied for Canadian immigration in skilled worker category at their consulate in Buffalo, NY in June 2007. In my application I provided a language proficiency letter to claim the 16 English points, but on August 2007 I received a letter from the immigration saying: "the material you provided as a proof of your language ability in English doesn´t support the level of proficiency indicated in your application. If you don´t provide the results of language testing, an assessment of your language proficiently will be made based on the information you have provided ".
They gave me a deadline to take the test within 120 days. Whim means I have to take it no later than the beginning of December.
Now the problem is, I was not able to prepare for IELTS because I am so busy in my PhD this semester and my mom went through a critical medical situation. So, I am thinking to write a new letter explaining why I am not going to take the IELTS and to ask them to do their assessment.
Based on my calculations I can get 57 point without the language part, so I need 10 points only. Do you think that they are they going to give me these 10 points by taking into account that I published many publications including a book, journal papers, and conference papers? I also, received many awards from the university for the best teacher and the best researcher during the last three years. Moreover, I did an internship for a year in a company here in the US.
All these documents are provided in my application.
Please let me know what do you think and I apologize for this long email.
Thanks,
Ahmad
[14-11-2007,14:17]
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Anonymous |
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(in reply to: Not taking IELTS)
I would take the test without studying, and see if you get what you need - 10 -12 which is moderate proficiency! Forget the 16 points. You should be able to do that with little or no preparation.
[14-11-2007,15:04]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Not taking IELTS)
ditto.
Try to reserve your exam date ASAP, sometimes they run full.
[14-11-2007,15:20]
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Raj |
(in reply to: Not taking IELTS)
This is a standard practice. If you want to claim the highest level of proficiency, IELTS is required. Especially since they asked for it. By trying to argue with them you will only delay your process. The test is very easy, and you don´t need to prepare. I was in a similar situation, doing my MBA program in US, when I took it. My score was higher than needed, even though I hadn´t studied before. Go for it!
[14-11-2007,15:46]
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Nikolay |
(in reply to: Not taking IELTS)
it seems that claiming 16 points is what triggers the IELTS request if english is not your mother tongue.
[14-11-2007,16:22]
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Sharon |
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Don´t bother arguing with CIC, if you can just take IELTS test and send them the results, you probably won´t need much of preparation.
Yes it is annoying but it is always good to do what they request for faster processing and acceptance.
[14-11-2007,16:35]
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CBV333 |
(in reply to: Not taking IELTS)
I agree with the rest of the people here, take the IELTS. If you try convincing them (especially after they have sent you a letter asking for IELTS), they are most likely going to deny your request.
Having said that keep the following two points in mind:
1: General IELTS (which is what you need for immigration, as opposed to Academic IELTS) is incredibly easy. If you believe your English is good, you wont have any issue getting a good band in that. Of course, I would highly recommend that you do “study” for the exam, by at least looking at some exam formats. Familiarize yourself with the format and how the questions would be asked. This is not studying for the language itself, but rather what the exam is like. That is, study your exam taking techniques.
2: Take a look at the following site (official CIC website) and see what IELTS band you need to get the immigration points your want.
http://www.cic.gc.ca/ENGLISH/information/applications/guides/EG74.asp
The information is need is about half way down the page. So for example if you scored 7 bands in all four areas (speaking, listening, reading, writing), you will get a maximum for 4 immigration points in each area (that is a total of 16 points). If you need only 10 points, may be you only need to et a band of 4 in one area and 2 in the rest (which is a band of 7 in one area and 5 in the rest). In my opinion, if your English is good, getting that in General IELTS would be very easy (provided you don’t get nervous during the exam).
Hope this helps.
Ray
[14-11-2007,19:58]
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Ray |
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Thanks All!
I guess I am going to take the exam without preparation as all of you have recommended .
The problem with IELTS in my area is that the closest place to take the exam is like 6 hours driving.
My point was to take your opinion if they are going to give me the 10 points without taking IELTS.
Thanks,
Ahmad
[15-11-2007,00:42]
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Ahmad |
(in reply to: Not taking IELTS)
Have you tried ordering CAIPS? If you submit written proof of language proficiency, sometimes IO will make a note like this.
" The material submitted in support of claimed language proficiency has not satisfied me that PA has the proficiency as stated in the application.
Points claimed 16. 12 points awarded based on written submission."
p.s. This I have typed from my friend´s CAIPS which I ordered for him as he was asked to take IELTS.
[15-11-2007,01:17]
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Samm |
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if you have enough points with 12, perhaps it is better to claim 12 right from the start instead of 16.
[15-11-2007,02:53]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Not taking IELTS)
Samm: How accurate this CAIPS is because I never heard about it. I went through there website, but could you please give me more detials from your experience.
Sharon: I thought it was better to claim the highest just to be in the safe side.
Thanks,
Ahmad
[15-11-2007,15:58]
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