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Subject: USA and CANADA
  Well,, was having a discussion about "why we r planning to apply for canada immigration" and got very negative feedback about job market for software professionals in CANADA.
IN general the gentleman expressed that you don´t get job in your field and you end up by doing xyz jobs because u have no choice.

Is job market in CANada very different from USA Speacially in IT.

Any Experiences?

[26-11-2007,11:39]
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nidhi
(in reply to: USA and CANADA)
Nidhi,
Sharon and probably Roy here have extensive experience in helping the immigrants on this forum, just wait for their opinions and you should be good.

[26-11-2007,11:50]
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Raj
(in reply to: USA and CANADA)
Yes there is lot of such publicity that new comers face difficulties but I know of many cases (after reading the posts from other website ) who got their jobs within 2-3 months in their respective fields of interests.
[26-11-2007,11:58]
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RKumar
(in reply to: USA and CANADA)
You made my day Raj:).

Rkumar Nidhi or any others:

Use advise from forums, but never take any personal opinion as the market indicator; in either direction. Concentrate more on collective studies performed by the reliable agencies.

If I just say my experience then you will be disappointed, but if another successful guy states his experience then you´ll be very optimistic. Both may be true, but can´t provide you anything concrete. You need to investigate more about the rates.

Specially without any debate there musn´t be any debate about the job market comparioson about USA/Canada. Some folks with "little men" fobia take this as a personal insult and start a funny overall US/Canada comparison without any good sense.

[26-11-2007,12:06]
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Departed_Canadian
(in reply to: USA and CANADA)
To put conjecture to rest, you better find a job before you land. Or find a job that would be ready for you as soon as you land. Everything else becomes his/her experience. Once you land, of course you will have your OWN experience. If you can´t find a job before landing but can´t hold the one you got now or utterly unhappy in your current position, your only option is to land and try your luck. Once you do that you will certainly have an experience to speak of... so to say, whether you want it or not. I moved here to work and landed a year later... kept the job I came here for and then luckily, it became permanent so if I tell you my story, you may get a lopsided view. But then again, it is a simple experience: move to Canada because you have a job here! Once you have no job waiting for you when you cross the border, you are with the rest of the crowd (the bulk of immigrants land without a secure job and end up with a great mosaic of experiences... some bitter and some sweet).
[26-11-2007,13:35]
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Jack
(in reply to: USA and CANADA)
Well Said Jack.

There is no doubt that before landing you really can´t be so sure about your prospect. However, there is a way that can help you understand your prospect before coming, it is more effective if you are from the US.

Create a resume with a Canadian address/phone (freinds/relatives). Then start sending that resume and observe the response you get. That´ll reduce greatly the difference between you are in Canada or outside of Canada.


[26-11-2007,13:42]
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Departed_Canadian
(in reply to: USA and CANADA)
this is the exact purpose of settlement money - to keep your boat afloat until the paycheque starts. Depending on your adaptation challenges, the ´right job´ can come quickly or may take some perserverance. While it is not the ideal situation, I would encourage you to worry about cashflow first, then the perfect job - at least as a start. You can find your way around and make a switch as soon as you find what you want, but in the mean time you will not be starving.

Landing that first job out of country is no easy task - but it happens.

[26-11-2007,15:10]
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Sharon
(in reply to: USA and CANADA)
Nidhi,
I agree with the advice here, have some money in the bank set aside for meeting your daily expenses in case you cannot find that job that does justice to your skill, assuming that your temp job is unable to meet all your expenses.

If you are open to changing your profession, again, be prepared to spend some time and money to get into college and improve your prospects. In general employers in Canada are very specific about Canadian work experience, so as sharon mentioned perserverance is the key. How much of it.... depends on the individual, some can wait for 10 years and some maybe get fed up after 1 year.

Also try to find out from whatever sources you have about the job scene in your specific skill area. IT itself is a vast area and people keep upgrading themselves to the skills thats in demand, so yours maybe HOT or NOT. Some immigrants have returned from Canada after testing the market as they felt their prospects are better elsewhere, some have made Canada their home. The most important thing is to NOT burn your bridges.... if you feel its not working out for you, then you should be prepared to trace your steps back. Good luck.

[26-11-2007,15:59]
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Raj
(in reply to: USA and CANADA)
Looks like we are all in good agreement here at least. In anywhere, as a new immigrant it takes some time to settle. No one should expect landing in a good job right after arriving.

Though, Nidhi particularly didn´t ask this question. What I understood that he/she wanted have a comparative idea about Canadian job market with respect to the US one. Immigrants coming from the US mustn´t measure Canadian market in the same scale of US one. That would be a great mistake. By no way Caandian market is comparable to the US one.

It doesn´t take any long debate to realize. Every year Canada recieves 250,000 new immigrants. Out of which approximately 125,000 enter into the work force. So, this added number (specially the 60-70 thousands of SW class) creates unthinkable competition for the jobs. In order to be at the front of the queue competing with the locals as well as many new comers like you; you really need to prove yourself, need to show something special, need good luck also.


[26-11-2007,16:18]
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Departed_Canadian
(in reply to: USA and CANADA)
There is a very different emotional dynamic of arriving in a country because you have a job waiting for you (HB1), compared to voluntarily moving to a country and then finding a way to provide for yourself.

Short of a work permit scenario, there is not real way to walk into Canada with the same sort of assurances. As a trade off, Permanent Residency is a wide open opportunity to set your own life plan the minute you arrive.

For some, this lack of certainty is more risk and anxiety than they care to take on. Fair enough. For others, it is an exciting open ticket to re-writing the script.

Very much dependent on the goals, temperament and tolerances of the person doing it all.

[26-11-2007,17:14]
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Sharon
(in reply to: USA and CANADA)
DC, you brought up a good point.

Nidhi,
you can search online job engines for Canada and compare with the USA using your skill keywords. As DC mentioned I also feel no debate is necessary regarding which country has numerically more job opportunities to offer in IT.

Please do let us know what you find in your research.


[26-11-2007,17:21]
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Raj
(in reply to: USA and CANADA)
True that there is difference between coming with a job and come then look for job.

However, still there is job availability factor which depends on the type of the economy, current economic condition, unemployment rate.. profession, degree, licensure....more ever competition.

It is undeniable that there are differences in the job markets. 2 country can´t have same job availability. One has to be relatively better or worse.

[26-11-2007,17:29]
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Departed_Canadian