Showdown in Iowa

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Subject: Showdown in Iowa
  For Republicans and Democrats alike, it may be a photo finish


DES MOINES - The world is focusing on Iowa today.
This state of 3 million people could make or break the lifelong hopes of contenders and the prayers of their supporters, and in the end, it could propel a candidate to the White House while dooming others to has-been status.
Tonight, a small percentage of Iowans will meet at their local high schools, firehouses and city halls to officially choose a presidential candidate in the first step toward narrowing the field of Republican and Democratic contenders.
Polls show a neck-and-neck race in Iowa on the Republican side between two former governors, Mike Huckabee and Mitt Romney, and an even tighter race between Democratic Sens. Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama and former Sen. John Edwards.
After raising and spending millions of dollars, and countless speeches and commercials, the wide-open race for the presidency starts its final stride tonight.
"The point is, this is the first real vote, as opposed to opinion polls," says Alan Licht?man, a political historian at American University in Washington.

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[03-01-2008,10:56]
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wrightya
(in reply to: Showdown in Iowa)
Probably I´m missing something; how it directly relates to immigration Canada?
[03-01-2008,12:32]
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Departed_Canadian
(in reply to: Showdown in Iowa)
With DC, I also don´t see relevance to Canada immigration. But unable to resist politics, let me put my spin on this topic.

I think if a Democrat wins, the U.S. will move a little closer to the way Canada looks. Health care is a big issue, with Americans fed up with its high costs and exclusivity. The U.S. would become more cooperative with the rest of the world and seek consensus with other countries - like Canada already does.

The current regime has established pretty tough restrictions on immigration, visitor visas, and border crossing procedures even for Canadians. There´s even talk of fence building along parts of the northern border. I´m not sure this would be relaxed under a Democrat, but the current atmosphere of xenophobia and protectionism would probably be lessened.

So my point is that the U.S. election could have an impact on immigration and movement between these two countries. We´ve already seen from questions and posts here the fears many have of how to deal with crossing to the U.S. border in order to return to Canada to secure a landing.

These are tough times, as the U.S. is struggling to deal with how to protect itself. As a result, this election will have an impact on it neighbors, immigration, and border crossing.

(sorry Roy for talking politics.)

[03-01-2008,13:58]
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Richard
(in reply to: Showdown in Iowa)
Hmm.

I agree mostly with Richard, to me even instead of Healthcare, it is more important for the democrats to win just to give a break from Terrofobia and war loving attitude.

[03-01-2008,14:27]
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Departed_Canadian
(in reply to: Showdown in Iowa)
I can never understand why it takes 2 years to elect a president. Canadian´s get it all done in 45 days! Maybe we care less???

I must confess I am finding the race interesting, given all the characters in the race. Sadly, who I would like to run the country will probably not get the chance.

I with you on this one too Richard... I think we would be much better off globally with a Democrat in the White House.

[03-01-2008,15:28]
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Sharon
(in reply to: Showdown in Iowa)
Richard,

In the US history, did you have consecutive 3 times Republican before?

[03-01-2008,15:54]
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Departed_Canadian
(in reply to: Showdown in Iowa)
DC, unfortunately yes. Ronald Reagan 2 terms, followed by G.H.W. Bush 1 term. Total 3 terms.

Am with Sharon on unnecessarily long election process in the U.S. Britain´s election process is short by law. Long process invites corruption, big money, and can make it seem meaninglessly tiresome. In any event, wonder who you´re leaning toward. Mine has very good chance in Iowa tonight, so am cautiously excited and optimistic. But I know what the power of the Republican machine is capable of.


[03-01-2008,16:21]
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Richard
(in reply to: Showdown in Iowa)
Hmm, so statistically it is well possible. We only can pray so that it doesn´t repeat at least this time.

I also agree about the unnecessary lenghty election procedure..propaganda. It invokes corruption..corroporate culture..

We all witnessed the power of the Republican machine in 2000. This time they seem even stronger..only hope from the voter if they can..

[03-01-2008,16:39]
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Departed_Canadian
(in reply to: Showdown in Iowa)
in order of preference (OK, I will duck)
Edwards, Obama, Clinton

[03-01-2008,18:25]
[***.121.220.199]
Sharon
(in reply to: Showdown in Iowa)
I like that order. Here would be similar - Obama (Illinois native son), Edwards, Clinton. If viable, top preference would be Kucinich.
[03-01-2008,20:28]
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Richard
(in reply to: Showdown in Iowa)
while it would be nice to have a woman in the White House I think it may need to be someone other than Hillary.


[03-01-2008,20:57]
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Sharon