New Canadian Experience Class

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Subject: New Canadian Experience Class
A bunch of authorized representatives including myself have been asked to comment on the new Canadian Experience Class by CIC.

Is there any interest on this forum to learn more?


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Yes, I´d like to learn more. I´m not sure what you´re asking us to do here though.
New Canadian Experience Class (in reply to: New Canadian Experience Class)
Yes, I am also interested in learning more about this class. I am all ears.
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Okay on Monday from the office I´ll copy and paste the current details CIC is considering for this new type of application class. It is all to be implimented by late spring early summer.

It allows students to apply in Canada and others already on work permits. The staff are already hired and that is why H&C application processing times at Vegreville, AB dropped from 18 months to 1-2 months.


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I just caught some comments on another website. sounds like they will be processing these applications through Buffalo!
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Citizenship and Immigration Canada Citoyennet? et Immigration Canada
Overview of Economic
Immigration Program
**For Background Information Only**
Citizenship and Immigration Canada
January 2008
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Canada?s Immigration System

Migration into Canada is managed through two main lines of business:

Permanent residence: for foreign nationals who have not become Canadian citizens but who are permitted to live and work in Canada indefinitely as long as they maintain their residence here.

Temporary residence: for foreign nationals permitted to visit, study or work in Canada for a limited period of time.

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Permanent Residents

Three classes of permanent migration:
Protected Persons (i.e., refugees)

Reflects priorities of the Immigration and Refugee Protection Act (IRPA):
economic growth and competitiveness;
family reunification;
Upholding Canada?s international commitments;
protecting the health, safety and security of Canadians.
Permanent Resident Flow by Category, 2006(Total = 251,649)Source: Facts and Figures 2005Economic, 138,257, 55%Family, 70,506, 28%Other, 10,382, 4%Refugees, 32,492, 13%
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Economic Classes of Permanent Residents

Canadian Experience Class (under development)

Federal Skilled Workers (42.1% of total admissions in 2006)

Business Immigrants (4.8%)

Provincial Nominee Program (5.3%)

Quebec Skilled Workers* (9.4%)
Quebec Business Immigrants* (0.7%)

Live-in Caregivers (2.7%)

*Under the Canada-Quebec Accordthe Quebec government selects its own economic class immigrants.
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Federal Skilled Worker (FSW) Program

To select people with the attributes that will allow them to become economically established in Canada.

Selection criteria:
Qualify as skilled worker, i.e. a year of skilled work (management, professional, technical as defined by the National Occupational Classification) in the past 10 years.
Applicants are awarded selection points based on their education,official language abilities, work experience, age, adaptability and pre-arranged employment. The applicant must have enough points to meet the pass mark which iscurrently 67/100.

2006 Admissions:
105,949 skilled workers and their dependants admitted
42% of these were principal applicants while the remaining 58% were their dependants (spouses and children).

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Business Immigration Programs

Immigrant Investor Program
To select experienced business people to invest C$400,000 into Canada?s economy.
Entrepreneur Program
To select experienced business persons who will own and activelymanage businesses in Canada that will contribute to the economy and create jobs.

Self-Employed Persons Program
To select people who have the intention and ability to become self-employed in Canada in farm management, cultural activities or athletics.

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Provincial Nominee Program

To meet local labour market and demographic needs.
Provincial and territorial governments identify and designate nominees who meet their specific regional labour market and economic needs.
All provinces and territories have programs except for Nunavut and the Northwest Territories .
Nomination criteria:
Provinces have the authority and responsibility of establishing their own criteria.
A nominee must meet federal admissibility requirements related to health and security, but is not subject to the selection grid applied to Federal Skilled Workers.
2006 Admissions:
13,336 Provincial nominees and their dependants.
Admissions have increased by over 900% between 2000 and 2006 (Program first introduced in 1996).

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Temporary Worker Program

To facilitate the temporary entry of foreign workers needed to fill labour market shortages and to provide other economic opportunities for Canadians, such as job creation and the transfer of new skills and knowledge.

Selection and admissibility criteria:
Employers must obtain a Labour Market Opinion (LMO) from ServiceCanada (HRSDC/SC) and provide a job offer to the applicant. In some cases a LMO may not be required.

The applicant then applies for a work permit, usually before entering Canada.

To be accepted as a temporary worker, certain conditions apply:
􀂃Intention to leave voluntarily.
􀂃Admissibility criteria related to health, criminality, security,appropriate documentation, finances.

2006 Entries:
112,657 work permits issued in 2006 (66% of which are male).

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International Student Program

To facilitate the entry of foreign nationals coming to Canada tostudy.

Selection and admissibility criteria:
Foreign nationals must obtain a study permit before entering Canada, by presenting a letter of acceptance from an educational institution and demonstrating the ability to pay tuition and financially supportthemselves.

To be accepted as an international student, certain conditions apply:
􀂃Intention to leave voluntarily.
􀂃Admissibility criteria related to health, criminality, security,appropriate documentation, finances.

61,703 arrived in 2006 (52% of which are male).

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Is there more? There is no information about the Experience Class.
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** Discussion Paper **


This document presents the conditions under which foreign nationals will be able to obtain permanent residence though the new Canadian Experience Class.

Program Parameters:

? CEC will be introduced as a new Class of Economic Immigration.

? Selection will be based on a pass/fail system.

? CEC targets those who came to Canada to work or study (those pursuing other avenues to permanent residence, i.e. Refugee claimants, would be excluded).

? The new CEC will be limited to occupations at the NOC levels 0, A and B (management, professionals and skilled and technical occupations).

? The selection criteria to qualify for the class will be tied to determinants of successful labour market integration: possession of a Canadian credential (for the international student recently graduated in Canada stream), Canadian skilled work experience, and official language proficiency.

Selection criteria:

For all applicants

? Have legally come to Canada to work or study, and have valid temporary status in Canada at the time of application. Foreign nationals such as refugee claimants in Canada and workers without status (undocumented) will not qualify.

Language proficiency
? Applicants require moderate proficiency for the ability to speak, listen, read and write (benchmark of 6 or higher on Canadian Language Benchmarks) in French or English.

? Applicants must submit results of tests provided by a designated institution ? International English Language Testing System or Test d??valuation de fran?ais.

For International Students Recently Graduated in Canada:

? A Canadian post secondary educational credential which requires at least 2 years of study.

? The credential must be granted by a Canadian public post-secondary institution or a Canadian private institution authorized by provincial statute to confer degrees.

? Credential requirements are consistent with those for a Post-Graduation work permit.

? One year of recent full-time Canadian skilled work experience at NOC 0, A or B (management, professionals and skilled and technical occupations) acquired in Canada (within the two years preceding the application for CEC).
o The applicant does not have to be in employment at time of application.
o The experience has to be acquired after the student has completed the required study and obtained a Canadian credential (Off-Campus Work Permit Program does not count).

For Temporary Foreign Workers:

? A secondary school diploma, or trade certificate or apprenticeship.

? Two years of recent full-time Canadian skilled work experience at NOC 0, A or B acquired in Canada (within the three years preceding the application for CEC).
o The applicant does not have to be in employment at time of application.


? CEC applications (principal applicants and dependants) will be processed in CIC?s Buffalo mission using the procedures currently applied to the Federal Skilled Workers.

? Existing health, security and criminality screenings will continue to be carried out before permanent residence is granted.

? Prioritized processing within economic classes, but not superseding PNPs or Quebec economic cases.

? CEC applicants will be able to apply for the Class and be admitted as permanent residents without leaving the country. Applicants will have the choice to receive their Permanent residence at either a port of entry or a CIC local office. They will have to go to Buffalo only if there is a need for an interview (currently under 1% of cases).


? We need to ensure that the target pools can qualify, especially the international students graduating in Canada.
o CEC relies on changes being made to the Post-Graduation work permit program (these are still under review but could involve easier access and a longer validity period) to ensure a smooth transition for international students graduating in Canada.

? CEC will complement PNPs rather than competing with them.
o CEC will respect provincial jurisdiction, including the Canada-Quebec Accord ? CEC will not apply in the Province of Quebec.
o Quebec and PNP?s competitive advantages will be preserved (i.e. priority processing).
o CEC selection criteria will ensure that PTs will be in a position to nominate temporary foreign workers and international students graduating in Canada before they would become eligible to apply under the new stream.
o PNPs will continue to be the method for P/Ts to access the immigrants needed to meet specific regional labour market needs.

? Financial requirements (available funds) of Federal Skilled Workers should not apply to CEC as the program is limited to ready-to-work skilled persons who will have been in Canada for at least two to three years.

? Lower skilled workers (NOC C and D) will not qualify. PNPs will remain viable avenues for these applicants.

Regulatory Amendments:

? A two-step approach has been adopted to introduce the necessary regulations for CEC.

? Phase 1: To ensure fairness and consistency, introducing to other classes conditions which will apply to the CEC (anticipated implementation in Spring 2008).
o Allowing admission (or landing) from within Canada for persons with temporary status in Canada (eliminating the need to go around the flagpole).

 The in-land admissions for CEC applicants will be extended to all members of Economic Class, including Provincial Nominees and Quebec Skilled Workers (to respond to PT?s needs), as well as Family Class.

o Requiring universal third party testing as proof of language proficiency for Federal Skilled Workers.

? Phase 2: To create the new Class (anticipated implementation of CEC by late Summer 2008).
o Defining the selection criteria.

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RE : Consultations on Canadian Experience Class

The Government of Canada 2007 Budget announced the introduction of a new avenue to permanent residence in Canada, one which would ensure that the country retains the best and brightest with the talents, skills and knowledge to meet rapidly evolving labour market demands. This new immigration program, the Canadian Experience Class (CEC), will facilitate the transition from temporary status to permanent residence for the following two groups: Canadian-educated international graduates who have attained some skilled work experience in Canada; and temporary foreign workers who have a track record of working in a skilled occupation in Canada.

The CEC will mark a departure from previous immigration policy in explicitly seeking permanent residents from the temporary population already in the country. It will encourage those most likely to succeed, by virtue of their work and study experience, to consider making Canada a part of their longer-term plans. Facilitating the transition to permanent status should make Canada a more appealing destination for skilled workers and international students.

Our team at Citizenship and Immigration Canada (CIC) is charged with the development of CEC and plans to launch it by late summer 2008. However, we first wish to consult the principal stakeholders in this exciting new program.

Employers should find in the CEC an added means of attracting international skilled labour. They should also see more newcomers in the labour market with the Canadian experience they recognize. The CEC will give even greater importance to Canadian post-secondary institutions as entry points to permanent immigration. I am writing to you as an employer, a representative of the education sector or as one having some related stake in the CEC, for your comments on the new program. Will it help address the needs and concerns of Canadian employers? Will it help attract and retain skilled workers to Canada? Your feedback will assist us in refining the design of the CEC, to ensure it is responsive to the current and future labour market.

Attached for your review is a Discussion Paper presenting program parameters and selection criteria for the CEC. It outlines the conditions under which foreign nationals will be able to obtain permanent residence though the new Canadian Experience Class. Also attached, for your reference only, is a background document which provides an overview of existing economic immigration programs.

We would ask that you provide written feedback and comments on, or before, January 31, 2008.

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if I read correctly, this is going to give priority to those who seriously want to establish themselves in Canada. In my mind, that is a good thing. Because these applicants will be part of the overall quota, those who are using Canada as a wild card option will have to wait even longer for their turn.

the hard part remains getting the employer hooked up with the potential immigrant for that initial work permit. That will become a boom industry!

again, that is not necessarily a bad thing because employers are screaming for access to the right skills so if the WP process becomes more efficient and prevelent, we may all win at the end of the day.

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So what does this mean for those who have applied under Federal program from outside Canada? As you said Sharon, the queue just got longer. Sure there are some outside Canada who are using Canada as a wildcard, but not all. I would even hazard a guess that an overwhelming majority of those who applied have done so because they want to move to Canada. While I can understand your frustration with those using the system (yes I have read the post about students who left the country and the whole Lebanon fiasco) improperly, I think it is a bit unfair on those who have been waiting in the queue for years.

As for those using the system improperly, I am sure there are more than enough Canadians (citizen by birth of every ethnicity and gender) who use systems improperly. I am sure there is fair bit of welfare fraud and food stamp fraud going on even as we speak. What would you propose? You should stop all Canadian (even those who do need welfare and food stamps) from collecting that? Punish all for the sins of few. I have read your previous posts Sharon and I generally find you a fair person. I am somewhat surprised to find you cheering at the misery of those of us waiting in line for years.

As I understand it you got involved in immigration issues as a personal matter to get someone a PR. I am sure you would disagree if someone told you that Canada should stop sponsorship (or delay it) because there are few who are committing fraud (such as marriage of convenience)?

As I said I am quite surprised at your cheerful tone.