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The Canadian Experience Class (CEC) is a done deal and a huge improvement for some.
When I started in this Immigration Consulting business the current (NOC) National Occupational Classification codes did not exist.
You could apply in any visa post you choosed to apply in and would receive a response within 6 weeks if you needed to have an interview or not. Total six months to be approved with an interview from most Visa Posts.
Chef´s under the former CCDO codes all got 10 points (MAXIMUM POINTS) whether your work experience was at Joe´s Diner or the Ritz in Paris.
Many of the provinces already have a CEC type of system but they sometimes put too much requirements on the employers or their web sites are so illogical few understand the process. ONTARIO PNP is a prime example.
I myself have a bricklayer who has been working in Canada for five years straight. He makes $36.10 per hour, his kids attend school here, his wife has an open work permit, they are involved heavily in the community and an asset to Canada. He had been getting ripped off year after year due to his poor English ability and allowing someone from his own ethnic community to charge excessively just to renew his work permit never applying for permanent residence. He just did not know nor how to get at the truth.
His employer found me because in the employers opinion this Bricklayer is far superior to most of his other bricklayers!
Just because you have sufficent points to be approved as a FSW in no way proves your ability as an employee. Canada should some how be going after the best Immigrants in their field not just the ones with sufficent points.
Establishment in Canada is a major factor and yet families are not always as helpful as friends will be. The Uncle that you have not talked to for twenty years gets any applicant 5 additional points while the friends you graduated with who will help you establish yourself get you ZERO additional points.
Change is hard to accept but at least CIC is trying. Problem is they will probably fall far short of what is required.
How many Representatives doing a brisk Immigration Business can drop everything to answer CIC within a month right after being off during the Christmas Holidays. Typical illogical idea from CIC.
Business and getting clients files completed puts bread on Representatives tables. CIC knew about this CEC process and if they really wanted input CIC should have asked long ago Representatives advice if they really wanted that advice.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[08-01-2008,08:29]
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Roy |
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(in reply to: Canadian Experience Class #3)
My real concern is with the temporary workers section of the CEC (not those who are international students) that need to have a 2 year work permit and work here for 2 years before being eligible for CEC PR. Are they going to make it somewhat easier to get a work permit? Also would they require another LMO when the work permit has to be renewed because the individual had to wait 2 years before applying for PR? I´ve heard of various people in Ontario getting negative LMOs even though their employers did in fact advertise the job. One really can´t expect an employer to post an opening for months on end, that doesn´t seem realistic to me.
[08-01-2008,13:01]
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fbf2006 |
(in reply to: Canadian Experience Class #3)
Hi Sharon,
I actually do understand the benefits of giving priority to people with Canadian experience. I also agree with giving priority to those who have received work permit. Canadian immigration program (as immigration in most other countries) was designed for the benefit of Canada (as it should be). Giving priority to those who will benefit Canada most is reasonable, sensible and acceptable.
Having said that, it is no joy sitting in a queue and keep getting bumped down. Every time I think its getting closer for me to get a response from the High Commission, I find out I have been bumped down because Canadian priorities have changed. That, as I am sure you can understand, is immensely frustrating.
And yet, as I said earlier, I agree and accept with the reprioritizations. My comment to you was based on your broad stroke of the brush in your accusation that those in the queue are misusing the Canadian system. However, I also believe that your comment was more from your frustration of those who have misused the system rather than any ill will towards others (perhaps just a wrong choice of words typed in a hurry).
Anyways, hope 2008 see all our dreams come true.
Ray
[08-01-2008,17:38]
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Ray |
(in reply to: Canadian Experience Class #3)
I am the first person to say this 5 year wait is outrageous. People need to plan their lives. I would much prefer CIC adopt a system where they only accept as many applications as they are prepared to process in a year. Either by date stamp or lottery.
several benefits - the requirements can change and there is not a huge backlog that must be processed under old rules, people can have a little bit of certainty about how long the process might take, and the decision to immigrate would be closer the the actual opportunity to immigrate and people would not be long down the road of plan B.
I doubt CIC will listen to me.
[08-01-2008,18:31]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Canadian Experience Class #3)
Well if i were the minister, I would let everyone with a clean criminal record enter Canada, so that Canadian tax payers can earn more and we can have more educated staff (with an MA or PhD) working at star bucks, or McDonalds...dont worry about those new comers I am sure they will all go back after seeing life really sucks here......
[08-01-2008,21:42]
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Tomoko |
(in reply to: Canadian Experience Class #3)
no doubt you said the same thing about the last country you lived in too.
[08-01-2008,22:43]
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Sharon |
in reply to CEC (in reply to: Canadian Experience Class #3)
Hi,
I´m a PhD candidate at one of Canada´s best universities. I am thinking of applying for a PR as I really like Canada and also as this will make it easier for my studies related travel (i.e., reduce visa requirements etc). Do you know if this class is officially available yet, or is it still only planned?
Thanks!
[13-01-2008,23:14]
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Razeena |
(in reply to: Canadian Experience Class #3)
if you are legally in Canada for 1 year you can apply as a skilled worker. the Canadian experience class is not available at the moment (late 2008?). not sure what the exact differences are but...
[13-01-2008,23:42]
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sharon |
(in reply to: Canadian Experience Class #3)
Razeena
The Canadian Experience Class is being designed for people like you who gained post graduate education in Canada or have worked in Canada on a valid work permit for a specific employer.
What it will finally entail or when it will really be launched no one really knows for sure.
I heard more then a year ago that the tentative date for launch was February 2008 but know they claim late 2008.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[14-01-2008,09:43]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Canadian Experience Class #3)
Hello, I have a question. I am a U.S. citizen, and I did my B.A. at a prestigious Canadian university years ago. After graduation, I used my one-year postgraduation work permit to work part-time in Toronto. Then I returned to the U.S., where I gained many years of excellent work experience in my field. Now I am back in Canada, where I have finished an M.A. and am now a candidate for the Ph.D. at another top Canadian university, in B.C. I understand that I CANNOT obtain a second one-year postgraduation work permit, since that is a once-in-a-lifetime offer. Given these conditions, how can I obtain the one year of work experience needed to apply for the Experience Class PR? Am I basically in the same position I would have been in with respect to working in Canada if the Experience Class had not been introduced? I´d be very grateful for advice. Thanks very much!
[14-02-2008,03:40]
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Ellen |
for international student (in reply to: Canadian Experience Class #3)
I don´t think it´s fair enough for international students. The requirements for CEC and Work Permit are catching each other. Employers in Canada are not willing to employ international people most of the time, for the main reasons from government policy. In this case, it´s very difficult for international students to get so-called valid Canadian experiences. That´s not a fair competition. So this new class will affect the new grads immigration very little, at least within these 2 years. I´m not expecting this new class to help our international students much out our difficult situation. Actually we´re not beneficial much from this.
[14-02-2008,03:56]
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Chen |
