The "another" forgotten Guantanamo Bay

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Subject: The "another" forgotten Guantanamo Bay
  http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080127/ap_on_re_mi_ea/israel_palestinians

plz read the above link.

Palestineans are in big prison in their own historical land. It is even worse than the original Guantanamo Bay. And guess who is sponsoring the big prison? those USA war criminals who can´t stop dictating to whole world their false human rights values...who have invaded and destroyed another small country (Iraq) with false reports and delibrate lies.
The palestineans are killed and massacred on daily basis by American paid and manufactured bombs. If we hardly agree on definition of terrorism, I would classify the US as the most and first terrorist state(nation) in the whole world, whole history..others are ONLY counter-terrors (nothing to justify).
You may disagree on the topic. Some heartless people may argue whether the topic is "IMMIGRATION" or not. It is indeed an immigration (related) as those palestineans are the real genuine refugees. So we have either to sponsor them to move to Canada as genuine refugees or to support their rights in their own land that has been stolen by the enemy of humanity. We have duties to protect Palestineans from the new NAZIs who live on the Holocuast theory.

If that someone dislikes the topic, plz just ignore. If the webmaster has the gut to delete after listening to some particualr member then my apology (thu late) goes to Balwant

[27-01-2008,14:27]
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SutarB
(in reply to: The "another" forgotten Guantanamo Bay)
Why should Canada take everyone in when Egypt (who happens to be the same religion, race and their neighbour) says no????

If they are genuine refugees there are endless Islamic and Arab countries that should take them in first before Canada gets slammed for not doing their part.

[27-01-2008,14:37]
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Sharon
(in reply to: The "another" forgotten Guantanamo Bay)
So SutarB, are you suggesting that Canada starts sending forces all over the planet liberating people? If Canada does that, eventially we will be liberating those who do not want to be liberated. So, we will have to kill them. And Canada will become "USA-2". Probaly even fighting "USA-the original version" in proxy wars around the planet.

Canadians should matter their own buisness. For the sake of Canadians and those who will get killed as a result of interventions. Whatever foreign obligation Canada takes, should either come from Alliance (NATO) or be a part of international mission (UN pecekeepers).

[27-01-2008,14:45]
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Nikolai
(in reply to: The "another" forgotten Guantanamo Bay)
You are so clever. You are turning the issue into a bizarre discussion (twisted direction). I guess you pretend having a boy friend from Arabs ONLy to cover up your own intention and real heart, whether in immigration or political matters.

Egypt (Govern..not people) is the tail of the war criminal in white house. I did not and will not imply that Canada has to have moral obligation to accommodate everyone. Why should the Palestinean go to neighbouring muslim Arabs? why can´t they enjoy their own "stolen" land? What was taken one day by force is only restored by force. This is the ONLY language that the enemy of humanity can speak and understand.

[27-01-2008,14:46]
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SutarB
(in reply to: The "another" forgotten Guantanamo Bay)
SutarB

If anyone tries to re-draw maps from before previous conflicts nothing would ever get accomplished. The issue would be why start at that point, why not earlier or later then the date you picked.

The other point is clearly that not Eygpt itself is the tail but more likely the current leader for what ever reason is more likely the tail, as you phrased it. Is he a good leader and why has he walled the _Palestian´s in?

Saddam clearly stated after his capture that he never expected G.W. to do anything other then a partial bombing.

SutarB you can have an opinion but why the attack when anyone focuses on the fact that the people who live in Gaza need to be assisted by their own neighbours far sooner then others living further away. Being of similar culture, religion etc. and their closeness would make it far more logical and faster for them to assist.

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[27-01-2008,15:02]
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Roy
(in reply to: The "another" forgotten Guantanamo Bay)
I agree, Palestinians need their own homeland but that does not change the fact that those same people are generally abandoned and ignored by those around them that should be considered as ´family´. I agree - go back to the 1957 borders and stop the stupidity from all sectors.

Do you think Hamas would accept that option? Didn´t think so.

When you post with your hostile rhetoric (Nazi´s, enemy of humanity, holocaust theory) you demonstrate that you are so polarized to one position that no matter what sort of compromise might be reached it would not be to your satisfaction. People like you on both sides of the conversation will be the real barrier to genuine change and improvement to the Palestinian people.

[27-01-2008,15:20]
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Sharon
(in reply to: The "another" forgotten Guantanamo Bay)
Roy,

I respect your opinion but clearly you do not know the deep roots of the conflict. Your views is where the whole matter stands....I mean what the biased media has been doing in washing the brains. All the mega media in US and all western countries are owned or influenced by the zionists or those behind zionists.
All the so called leaders of ME are dirty tail dictators. Those dictators are sponsored by US and CIA. But do not forget...the USA are also the human rights and democratic missions of the whole world..lies and lies as usual. People of ME can not help because once they go against their leaders, they are automatically terrorist. When a decision is to be made in so called UN, the USA has always the gut to "VETO" because simply the election in the so called USA democratic country is highly influenced and sponsored by the ZIONIST AIPAC. So every hopeful presidential candidate has to look after Israel interest first and last before anyone else in USA. This applies to war in Iraq. It was done for the eyes of Israel ..does it matter how many Americans dies or will die?? of course not. The Iraq war engineers in pentagon were people like Richard Pearl, Paul Wolfitz, and others are are bluntly ZIONIST and AIPC...so what do you expect?

To answer sharon: the experience of/from history says "no peace with those who are enemy of peace...so what was one day taken by force is ONLY restored and re-gained by force". Does it matter how many centuries that it can take? no...So Palestine will be palestine again....sadly blood shed has to continue but victory is at the end of the gloomy tunnel

[27-01-2008,15:46]
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SutarB
(in reply to: The "another" forgotten Guantanamo Bay)
SutarB,

Your concern/jusitification for the Palestine problem is genuine, Roy also gave some good feedback regarding the own land based on history. That should be understood by everyone, all parties involving Palestine.

In that sense all settlers including the whites, Asian..should start heading to where their forefathers came just few hundred years ago and leaving the entire North America to the Native Indians. Does that sound very logical?

What Sharon asked asl naturally comes to my mind. Why Canada has to? Why not our own "brothers" of the same religion? So before blindly blaming others we should look back at us first, in my opinion there lies the problem. Though Canada as a humanitarian country may consider more for the Palestenians.

[27-01-2008,15:48]
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Departed_Canadian
(in reply to: The "another" forgotten Guantanamo Bay)
D_C

The Palestine conflict is under constant conspiracy of silence.
The neighbouring brothers to Palestineans idea is very dangerous. That is exactly what the ZIONIST AMERICA want to draw. They want to re-settle most if not all Palestineans in neighbouring Arab countries so that the rest of the land will be given to new zionist settlers who came from everywhere to steal the land by force and by American finance. The educated and professional palestineans are silently immigrating to Canada and US for the same purpose. So this game is so dangerous. The matter is not simply "giving some money, some food&water to Plaestineans from their neighbour brothers. It is far deeper and trickier. Those who honestly collect money for humanitarian purpose to AID the hungry palesttineans are categorized as TERRORISTS in US and even in Canada. A Florida US Professor of pals origin is in prison now just because he was supected of collect money for his Pals pple. a Yemeni elder of 70 years old was kidnapped from his own country by CIA for the same accuastion. and guess what the very civilized US judge gave him? two life sentences. THis is the new civilization of America.....but who is America? Romans went with the wind for the same reason...I can´t wait to see the end...hopefully in my life...with all my sincere symapthy and apology to the good and genuine American pple. But American pple allowed their great country to be controlled totally by the zionist AIPAC.

[27-01-2008,16:12]
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SutarB
(in reply to: The "another" forgotten Guantanamo Bay)
I look at the map and I see this tiny place called Gaza. Why should such a tiny place cause so much trouble. As a Canadian I cannot comprehend the use of guns to solve a problem. I cannot comprehend a father choosing a cause over the safety of his wife and children. I cannot imagine any piece of dirt being worth thousands of lives. I am not even sure there is motivation to make it all stop.

I believe that Canada has more than Palestine to think about. What about Dafur, and Burma and Haiti. The list of oppressed people needing assistance is endless.

[27-01-2008,16:21]
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Sharon
(in reply to: The "another" forgotten Guantanamo Bay)
No one ask you or Canada to help but to make awareness of the truth. Gaza is a tiny sardine can because the whole Palestine has been swollen by the Zionist, who are paid and supported by US.
Darfur....oh yes....there are mistakes from all sides but it is another American dirty finger kind of problem. It is too complicated to explain here right now. But why human rights propaganda is only raised when it suits the F*** US? where are the same human rights of Palestineans?
Somalia was invaded by a foreign country (Ethiopia) with full help and support bu US..why?

[27-01-2008,16:31]
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SutarB