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Subject: Nightmare - 2
  Lisa,

Ran out of reply space in your thread. I wanted to say I´m truly sorry for what happened. It sounds like you got treated unfairly. During one of our goods moves, the customs officer was particualarly nasty and rude to us over not importing our car right at that moment. I went inside to the customs office to talk to someone else, I was so peeved. Another officer said condfidentally that some fellow officers are out of control and like the feeling of power over new immigrants. He said try to ignore it. I came away amazed such a wild variety of behavior is tolerated in the Canadian immigration and customs system.

Anyway back to you. If you were informed that you could declare everything when your items arrived by van, I´m not clear what the issue is then. Upon arrival of your goods, couldn´t you then have just listed everything from the van on your "Goods" list? What was it that the officer didn´t like exactly? That some items were new? But then what´s wrong with new items if they´re properly listed on the "Goods" list?

I don´t mean to continue if you don´t want to, but am not clear what the issue is, and others might have more input. Perhaps you could ask to talk to a supervising officer as I tried to do in my case.

[30-01-2008,00:16]
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Richard
(in reply to: Nightmare - 2)
I stand corrected after reading up on the rules. Goods must have been used by the settler prior to arrival. That means goods cannot be new. If a strict officer wanted, he could make a big deal out of anything that looks brand new and never used, even if on the "Goods" list. This is what apparantly happened in your case.
[30-01-2008,01:31]
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Richard
(in reply to: Nightmare - 2)
Richard,

This is new to me also though makes sense that goods must have been used by the settler prior to arrival. Otherwise widespread abuse will occur.

I would suggest this poor lady the same thing as most suggested; just pay the due tax ASAP and clear it up. Nothing can be done or any other trick will play.

Though I also have a similar feeling that she was treated badly. The officer over excercised his power. I don´t now how much Canada can gain out of her matress. Difference of crossing border bet´n USA/Canada is; in US side they don´t care about custom they care only about immigration status, whereas in Canadian side they concern mostly with the custom. Entering each time Canada specially with big baggage we always have to listen some annoying questions that sometimes go beyond any limit. I think they concern more because of lot of canucks use to shop in the USA.

[30-01-2008,09:56]
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Departed_Canadian
(in reply to: Nightmare - 2)
DC,

That´s right. Best if she just pays the tax and moves on with settlement. Nothing else to be done really.

Interesting what´s important for U.S. vs. Canada. Makes sense considering the fears and importance of the immigration issue south of the border. As a result because the U.S. is getting tougher on the border, the Canucks feel they have to act tougher too.

[30-01-2008,10:38]
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Richard
(in reply to: Nightmare - 2)
In reciprocal sense, Canucks should too.

BUT, again, in real sense they can´t afford that. They are much more dependent on the US than the opposite, sorry to say that and igniting another possible fire cracker.

Even about the strict US Img. entry, some northern US business at the begining complained to lose business, can´t imagine for Canada.

Another point is US simply didn´t do that because all of a sudden they start hating the Canucks. Past few years some terrorists used Canada as the launching pad. Apart of the debate of why terrorists attack US but not Canada here, it is their duty to protect their country. That´s why when I feel random secutiy check incidentally comes to me, I can´t blame them fully.

[30-01-2008,11:14]
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Departed_Canadian
(in reply to: Nightmare - 2)
We all know why hatred by radical groups is aimed more at U.S. than Canada. Certain attitudes and foreign polices of the last 8 years.

But to make Canada another Mexico, with fences, walls and difficult border checks is unreasonable and in the long run self-defeating. America is already isolated worldwide diplomatically, but to no longer trust the border with one of its closest allies? That´s really going down the wrong path. EU has eliminated all border checks for member states completely, and it doesn´t seem so obsessed about this issue.

[30-01-2008,15:25]
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Richard
(in reply to: Nightmare - 2)
I never say that closing and isolating will bring any good in the long run. No matter how big someone is, it is self destructing. Current Rep. Govt. can claim this credit fully.

However, measures also have to be taken aganist entering terrorists or illegal workers. You also shouldn´t want to see your innocent freinds/relative´s brutal fate. Don´t you think so?

Not only terrorists threat; many illegal aliens also come through Canada. Specillay due to the over frustrated condition in Canada even some immigrants think it is better to go south and stay work illegally. I know some groups in NY city in this class.

Read a report here:
http://www.thestar.com/article/280790

I see a stat by US INS reporting 120,000 illegal Canadians there in that year.


[30-01-2008,16:25]
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Departed_Canadian
LESSON LEARNT (in reply to: Nightmare - 2)
i finally got the clearance within 48 hrs from customs,..didnt have to pay any at customs...the shipping company meanwhile charged me another 850$ FOR SHIPMENT IN TRANSIT ??
[19-02-2008,03:57]
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lisa
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