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Thats´ right, wannabe. Have experienced exactly the same reaction. Friends and acquaintances look at me with that "huh?" amazement when mentioning Canada move.
But as you said, they know almost nothing about the country when conversation proceeds from there. Roy is right, Rick Mercer´s program on CBC perfectly lampoons this situation (let´s bomb Edmonton).
Was thinking it would be nice to have a board for us small and apparently weird minority. But I think there already is one linked from the RoadToCanada website.
DC, yes quite a variety of reasons for moving north. What´s also intriguing is the 68,900 Canadians moving south, disproportionately. Not sure if you count yourself among them, though. But in my opinion as stated before, the material wealth and excesses are always a big draw. But many perceive better job opportunities as well, as discussed here many times.
[20-03-2008,16:29]
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Richard |
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Richard don´t brag about your knowledge of Canada. Once you are here stuck in a snow-bank for 5 months, you may change your views. Canada is not inhabitable until we push it further south into Atlantic. Right now it is snow, ice, cold and little else. In Quebec so much icy snow got piled on the roofs that the roofs are collapsing and killing bunches of people. What if you are stuck in a house loaded with icy snow on top and the snow and icy rain never stops falling? You might then start dreamin of the US. I would say you are better off immigrating to Atlanta or such than moving to Tundra.
[20-03-2008,17:24]
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Elvii |
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Not bragging, I just like it there and lived there. I also know and experienced the incredible snow. I had to shovel almost every day over previous winter and a few times the roof to avoid risk of collapse. Accepted it as everyday life in that part of Canada, just like everyone else there.
If needing to be a soft, flabby doughboy, then yes, sitting out on the warm veranda in Atlanta drinking a mint julip will do it.
[20-03-2008,17:54]
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Richard |
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we have cut our grass twice already. daffodils are blooming and the cherry blossoms are coming out.
Seems to me, every country has bad weather. US has had snow, tornadoes, drought, wind storms. So... Canada gets snow. yes, this year we got a lot of it and it is getting a bit much but the end is in sight. Winter sports enthusiasts are in heaven at the moment.
it is all a matter of perspective.
[20-03-2008,18:01]
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Sharon |
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Canada is not perfect but lets move to the mid west USA so we don´t miss the floods this weekend. Then what other benefit is there.
So we get snow on our roofs in certain areas but our extreme weather stories are nothing compared to the Americans.
Life in the south of France is interesting too, the Scandinavian countries are interesting, I heard Accra Ghana has good points as well Buxton, Guyana Elvii.
Happiness is where you call home.
I´m glad some non-Canadians want to call Canada home it makes me proud.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[21-03-2008,10:15]
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Roy |
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Richard,
I think I was counted on the 68,000 /year stat like your were in the 6100. This Stat didn´t categorize according to the reason or country of birth, just based on immigration status.
It is also undeniable that many people indicate the harsh winter of Canada as a reason though I don´t think that is entirely true. True that except BC area most of the major populated Canadian areas have huge snow and long winter. Northern US also has similar climate. In the original posting by Raju a Canadian simply identified snow as the reason to move into the US. Though he didn´t explain why didn´t he move to the BC area in his own country instead of foreign USA.
Reasons are diversified. Though still major reason comes from the better oppurtunities or materialistic point of view which control our life. Snow or high tax may be addjust some extra fuel. I think there are wide differences in the reasons from the US and Canadian sides. Also different views may be found in born-Canadian and naturalized Canadians as well. I think that you understand this well.
It is not wise to deny the established and well known truth. I don´t think there is any shame in accepting that US is still the no.1 choice in the immigration world for many good reasons.
[21-03-2008,11:03]
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DC |
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What Roy said in this post is true (I can´t believe I´m saying this !) but what you call "home" is basically your safe heaven, its like a safety net for you to fall back on. Anyone who has lived their whole life at one place will undoubtedly tell you that the place he/she is living is the best place on the earth. When people are young, maybe single or just married, its easier for you to move around to any place you want, you are more open to find a place suitable to you, but once you anchor at a place for 15-20 yrs.... fuggetaboutit !!
I see people everyday who are able to affordable lesser and lesser than 10 yrs ago, living in New York and cribbing about where they live all the time, but the moment a relative or friend come to visit them.... hey New York is like the best place on the planet.... they only have the best things to say about it.... so you guys get a hint why we behave this way ?
As far as immigrants are concerned, I think they have the luxury of actually living at more than one place to actually compare their life´s in both places, and if they choose to move out to another place, I don´t think anyone has the right to question that, and their views may not be easily digested by the people who have been living their whole lives over there.... why ? because how can they come to terms with the fact that maybe.... there is a better place, but I missed the bus a long time ago.... its real scary. So when people make statements about where they want to be.... don´t misunderstand them.... just understand what category they belong to !
[21-03-2008,11:58]
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Raj |
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Raj it never is an issue of just wanting to live elsewhere it is the issue of the way the person says it that I take offense to.
It is the lack of logic the person uses. It was Elvii or aka ____ ____ ____ ____ comment that I took offense to.
If you live on a Island in the Caribbean or in the Mediterranean and you do not swim or know how to sail. You can´t stand the heat or the sun then you won´t enjoy it their either.
Picking the USA for their weather and claiming one of the most severest winters in years is the reason to move is illogical. The USA is known for severe weather.
When one picks a country for their new home it is their obligation to assess weather along with all other factors. If Elvii is so concerned about the snow maybe he should move even further south to Guyana, Colombia, Venezuela, Ecuador or Peru.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[21-03-2008,12:11]
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Roy |
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Are the winters in Northern Alberta ugly?
You betcha.
Summers up here are awesome though.
I realize that the US is a well established country, unfortunetly is highly unsafe and their economy is going south and 3/4 of world do not like them.
Why would I live there?
From a business point of view, the US has a completly different economic pattern than Canada, very cyclical as far as I concern. The tops are high and the bottoms are VERY low.
Job opportunities in the US?
Lets define that:
Can you be an employee the rest of your life in ths States?
Maybe.... 90% of the population are.
Can you start you own firm, business, organization whateverin the States?
Chances are very slim. One of the main reasons are that the Government structure is a mass, very strong differences between State and Federal laws, AND AS I SAID BEFORE IT IS A cyclical economy WORSE than a lot of developed countries in the world.
Their main advantage.. 300 million with barely any room to grow as a country.
Look at it in 20 years. Where do you think the US will be in 20 yrs.
I can see a big difference in the future of Canada though.
As some other fellow Americans up here, I think we found a place where we have succeed, it is safe and an awesome place to start a family.
I am very pround to call my self Canadian, eventhough I was born a little bit further south.
Immigration and Managment are like a jar of Jalapinos...
What we do today, may burn our butt tomorrow.
Cheers
Bill
[21-03-2008,12:19]
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Bill |
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Well put Bill, LOL
Roy
www.cvimnmgration.com
[21-03-2008,14:14]
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Roy |
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Bill, you made my day.
jar of jalapinos - ain´t that the truth!!!!!
[21-03-2008,14:48]
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Sharon |
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