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Does anyone have information on reliable, professional headhunters? In the US, there is a distinct difference between headhunters--who search for professional positions often not listed to the general public--and placement agencies, which generally offer lower positions on a short term basis and with quick turnaround (ie: they call you the day before they need you to work).
We are searching primarily in energy, although any agency that deals with marketing and business development would be appropriate. We are wide open on where we would consider locating.
Also interested in information on how headhunters work in Canada; here, they typically charge a percentage of your annual salary for X amount of time, or the employer pays the percentage. I assume it is the same?
Does anyone have experience using headhunters as a means of gaining employment or leads on potential employment?
[02-04-2008,15:22]
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wannabecanadian |
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(in reply to: Headhunters vs Placement Agencies)
I think in Canada it is almost the same thing.
For the professional jobs they are not that effective, some are good for the IT related ones.
I would always suggest anybody to keep away from them (both in US/Canada) if possible.
[02-04-2008,15:49]
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DC |
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I would love to assist you if you were a Carpenter because I can´t find enough anywhere.
Really Frustrated today.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[02-04-2008,19:40]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Headhunters vs Placement Agencies)
Roy: Wish we could help you out there, but my husband´s carpentry skills, are, well...he readily admits to a severe aversion to power tools, and we just spent $1200 getting 2 doors installed, if that tells you anything. Power to those who have such skills, but unfortunately they don´t exist in this household! :)
[02-04-2008,19:44]
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wannabecanadian |
(in reply to: Headhunters vs Placement Agencies)
My dh wants you to know that while he can´t actually do the labor, he can: schedule the carpenter´s projects; create metrics in which to measure the carpenter´s performance and design a template with which to track said carpenter´s performance; create powerpoint presentations to show the carpenter´s progress to show to senior management; can design a web page for the carpenter or for senior management on which to post the carpenter´s metrics; can create a tracking and/or prioritization system to best manage the carpenter´s projects; and can write variance reports on why the carpenter isn´t meeting his goals.
Does that help?
:)
[02-04-2008,19:52]
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wannabecanadian |
(in reply to: Headhunters vs Placement Agencies)
you realize there is a shortage of project managers too!
as a Canadian who would have ever dreamed we would be begging for construction trades. We use to make such a big deal about going to university and making something of yourself. It was only the ´flunkies´ that settled for carpentry and plumbing. HA! They get the last laugh. Recession or no recession - plumbing doesn´t stop and niether does the technology.
Wannabe - if your child is not a professional hockey player... encourage them to be a plumber or an electrician. They will never be without work.
give you dh a big hug for his good humour in all of this.
[02-04-2008,20:12]
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Sharon |
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p.s. I sent you a message over at RTC.
[02-04-2008,20:15]
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Sharon |
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Wannabecanadian
That shows your husband is super intelligent.....
He does not attempt to do the tasks he has little or no skills for. He retains and supervises those with the skills to do the task. That way he will live longer and you won´t here &^%#$%&**( when he hits his thumb for the tenth time.
Placed adverts in European Newspapers for Carpenters yesterday. Problem is the countries that want to come the Visa Posts have not caught up with the attitude in Canada that we are desperate for these people and they will not allow families to come. (Not western European Countries Eastern European)
Every time we included partners and children they refused. Everytime the male came by himself approved regardless of how great the individuals qualifications were.
Going to raise hell to the Standing Committee of CIC.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[03-04-2008,08:35]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Headhunters vs Placement Agencies)
Well, still no luck here too despite a few recent frenzied contacts showing interest. I´m convinced having U.S. address doesn´t help. Will try using friend´s local Toronto address in listing as suggested. The fear of relocation must really play a big part in employers´ minds there it seems. Maybe one needs to make the move first then hope for the best and look for the offer later.
[03-04-2008,17:36]
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Richard |
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Richard, the same advice I have given wannabe... be very clear in a cover letter or right in your resume that your are not requiring any CIC clearances to move. You could be in city XX tomorrow if need be.
I am sure the employers assume that they might be waiting 6 months or more when they see a US address.
[03-04-2008,18:09]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Headhunters vs Placement Agencies)
I think we need to get more aggressive on making that clear; even though our cover letter states that we are permanent residents, I doubt that most employers know exactly what that means, and that there isn´t any red tape for them to go through to get us there.
We did lose out on an opportunity last year in Toronto because the company was afraid we would move up there and end up not liking it, and it was too big of a job to risk (at least they were honest!). We thought it was ironic that we´d been denied an opportunity despite all the work we´ve put in to moving there, and that they felt that someone local would be less likely to leave the job despite the huge commitment we´d be making. As it turned out, they didn´t end up hiring anyone and the job description totally changed, so we lucked out in the end.
One thing we realized after that experience is that many companies are required (by their own rules) to pay for relocation costs. We would never expect an employer to pay for our move and would happily sign any waiver, but the fact is that if they´ve paid for one relocation, it is unlikely that they would not pay for another (imagine the potential lawsuits they´d be opening up for themselves). This is a huge concern for us, as we are fully prepared to take any relocation expenses upon ourselves (an obvious fact to us, but perhaps not so to a potential employer). Perhaps we need to be more clear about that as well.
Richard: glad to hear you are at least getting some interest; it helps keep the hope alive! It´s been all silence for us lately. I´m sure you are feeling the same dread we are at the thought of leaving your current situation and "hoping for the best", especially with the current economic outlook. I try to remind myself that that is exactly what most immigrants do, but it´s still awfully daunting. I can be found at RTC if you want to talk about this further.
[03-04-2008,18:35]
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wannabecanadian |
