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Hi! We are a family of four, (2 american born children) My wife and I oversatyed our visas for about 5 years. Now we are looking into migrating to Canada in a good way. We have been checking what we need and we found that we need a FBI fingerprint check.
My questions are (and I hope someone can help us) Do we have to provide them with a SSN? Is there anyway to have the fingerprint check done by not prividing the SSN? We have drivers licenses and never had problems (arrested).
We are really desperate since we come from Venezuela and going back to our country can not be an opption.
[09-05-2008,16:59]
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Ruperto |
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(in reply to: Overstayed US visa, now we want to migrate to Can)
If you want to apply from the US, your must demonstrate that you are a legal permanent resident of that country.
[09-05-2008,18:01]
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Anonymous |
(in reply to: Overstayed US visa, now we want to migrate to Can)
No you do not need to be a PR of the US to apply from there. However, you need to provide SSN. There is a box for that number. Not sure if you can leave it blank. You need to go to the police station to have your fingers printed so I wonder if the cops insist on you putting down the SSN. Also, if you are in some states where the cops have the power to ask if you are legal resident, you might end up in greater trouble than you might want. Tread the ground carefully. But then again, you can be so confident-looking that the cops may not even suspect that you might be illegal. How did you manage to work for so many years being illegal and support a family?? Is Venezuela that bad?
[09-05-2008,19:00]
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guest M |
(in reply to: Overstayed US visa, now we want to migrate to Can)
If you overstayed in the US, it will be likely that you will be refused entry in Can. Think about it! Why would Canada want to deal with you after you have already demonstrated a disregard for U.S. immigration law? How could you possibly convince an officer at the border that you are trying to enter Canada for a legitimate purpose?!
[09-05-2008,20:33]
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Anonymous |
(in reply to: Overstayed US visa, now we want to migrate to Can)
Well is intersting that you ask that question. How Did I manage to work for so many years being illegal and supportt my family? Is Venezuela that Bad?
Well those are question that I have to answer. Let me start by the second question. The answer is yes. It is that bad. Venezuela was a country of turists now we´ve become a country of immigrants. The amount of people leaving the country after Chavez took the power had increased by the thousands. Most of the private enperprise have left the country since the goverment does not offer and does not respect the private property. It is so bad that even companies that has been Venezuelans since their starts moved their assets to Colombia, wich wouldnt make sense since Colombia has guerrilla problems, but the Venezuelan goberment is supporting this guerrilla groups.
Well anyway It is a little bit complicated to explain, but I think I could short answer by saying that when the most of the population of a country is trying to leave its own country somthing bad is happening.
Regarding the second question, I have to be a litle carefull with this answer I guess. So you know I have worked for three Companies in USA. The first company I worked for was my cousins´. I was told by him that he was gonna help me to get my papers wich was bullsh.. (thats why I came here) I was exploted like a freaking dog. At the end I found out that He was just using me and when finally some friends made me open my eyes my I 94 had expired. Now I was in the USA with wife and 2 children and my home country getting worse, so I decided to go and do what most of illegal workers do, invented a number. Before 911 most compnies wouldnt ask you to phisically see it. So I started working for a company en Va for about a year and after that I worked for another company in Md for about 3 and half years. Now Im working independatly. The reason why we are trying to move is because already in two ocassions my wife have been mistreated and we are not feeling safe here anymore. The antiimigrant feeling is increasing in a bad way and the Gov. instead of helping is throwing more wood to the fire.
[09-05-2008,20:56]
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Ruperto |
(in reply to: Overstayed US visa, now we want to migrate to Can)
If you were admitted to US for atleast 1 year then you are eligible to apply through Buffalo.
[10-05-2008,15:15]
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Samm |
(in reply to: Overstayed US visa, now we want to migrate to Can)
Venezuela is so bad??? MMMMmmmm, come on man!
Think about it! You don´t like the president! That´s the point.
Venezuela is a beautiful country, the population is great, the weather, etc, etc, etc. As many countries, politicians suck.
If you don´t like Venezuela, quit you nationality and stay wherever you want, but don´t say it again!
[10-05-2008,15:19]
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Anonymous |
(in reply to: Overstayed US visa, now we want to migrate to Can)
Why can´t Ruperto say that Venezuela is bad? That´s his opinion, and the last time I checked, freedom of speech is a human right.
I understand where he´s coming from. It´s not just about horrible politicians. It´s about wanting yourself and your family to live in a place where there is some order, where you wouldn´t face constant discrimination. I don´t come from Venezuela, but I come from a country facing such problems, and I understand the yearning to be free from that.
[11-05-2008,02:09]
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anonymous |
(in reply to: Overstayed US visa, now we want to migrate to Can)
Back to the issue.
All applicants who have resided in any country since the age of eighteen for more then six months must provide proof of no convictions from all of those countries.
Since you are from Venezuela you can apply there or IF you were admitted into the USA legally for one year and since you reside there (regardless of status) you can submit there. IRPR #11
Like or dislike is nothing more then an interpretation as to how the individual sees the facts from their eyes through their own personal experiences.
I WISH YOU AND YOUR FAMILY ALL OF SUCCESSES POSSIBLE.
[11-05-2008,11:15]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Overstayed US visa, now we want to migrate to Can)
Hi Ruperto,
Sorry to hear your predicament. With regards to your question about the Social Security Number, the information is requested on the FBI fingerprint form. However, you can always leave it blank and hope that it is not asked for. If you are lucky, they will send the information back without asking for the number. Or they may ask you for the number prior to running the check on you. Assuming you want to take that chance.
Also, note that it is possible that your SSN is already tied to your fingerprint. In California, when you apply for driver’s license, they also take your thumbprint, and thus your thumbprint will show up with your SS number and visa versa. If that is the case for the state you have your driver’s license from, then the two would be related and would show up in the FBI search. Hence, if you give them your SSN, you have to consider which one, the one you got legally when you first entered the US (assuming you applied for SSN then) or the fake one.
With regards to two anonymous comments (you need to be a PR and Canada wont allow you in because of your illegal status), ignore them both as they are only trying to scare you unnecessarily. As others have commented, as long as you initially entered the US legally with a visa for at least 1 year, you should be ok. In which case CIC decision to accept or reject your application would be based on points other than your current status in the country.
Like Roy, I wish you all the best as well. Hope you find a solution to your situation.
Ray
[11-05-2008,19:32]
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Ray Masa |
(in reply to: Overstayed US visa, now we want to migrate to Can)
I am a port of entry officer at CBSA and I submitted one of the "Anonymous" posts above. I can tell you without a doubt that I have refused entry to persons in similar situations to yourself and I also know for a fact that my co-workers in the CBSA have as well. I am not trying to scare you. Merely pointing out the reality. I read your history, and can tell you that if I was the officer that got you in secondary examination, I would likely refuse you entry. Likely, cause I would need to know a little more before being certain. Not to scare you. You were illegal in the U.S. You showed prior disregard for immigration law. Why would any officer be satisfied that you are going to come to Canada for a legitimate purpose? Why would any officer want to take a chance and let you into Canada? Look at your situation from the eyes of a law enforcement officer and ask yourself if you really think you should be let into Canada form the perspective of the law? Not compassion, not sympathy? Purely, and simply, you broke the law before and have a history of doing so. Why wouldn´t you do that in Canada?
[12-05-2008,01:05]
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Anonymous |
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