Expired PR Card and my immigration Status

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Subject: Expired PR Card and my immigration Status
  Hi,
My PR Card is expired and i need to renew it but i have been in Canada for less than 730 days during last five years.
I have been in Canada just 11 month during the first 5 years and 2 months after my PR Card expire date.
I am here continuously from one year ago and am working in engineering field and about to by an apartment.
My wife has been in Canada for more than 3 years and she got her Citizenship just 4 months ago.
I was told if I stay in Canada for another year, I would be eligible to renew my PR Card. Therefore, I am waiting to meet the 730 days to apply for PR.
My first group of questions are, Am I in right direction? I mean am I eligible to get my renewed PR Card next year after I meet 760 days if I never leave Canada during the next year? How is my immigration Status? (I was told that PR Card is just a permit to enter to Canada for Immigrant travelers to abroad)
However, i have to travel to the State to participate in business meetings several times for the company that I am working and each trip would not be longer than a week.
My second question, Is there any way that I could get a permission such as temporary document to travel to US for one week and come back to Canada?


Thnk you for your comments in advanced.

Sam

[12-08-2008,11:50]
[**.225.243.135]
Sam
(in reply to: Expired PR Card and my immigration Status)
Sam,

May I know who told you "I was told if I stay in Canada for another year, I would be eligible to renew my PR Card"?

"My PR Card is expired and i need to renew it but i have been in Canada for less than 730 days during last five years." - It simply means that unless within that period you didn´t stay overseas with your Canadian wife or work for any Caandian company then your PR status is VOID. So, if that is the case then staying another year won´t give you the eligibility to renew the PR card.

Your five year cyle is gone and most likely you lost it. Next year it´ll be year No. 6. That won´t be counted towards the 730 days out of 5 years.

Unelss you can meet the staying with Canadian wife oversea...working for a Canadian co. then your PR status is gone, now you can only apply for humanitarian ground to revoke it. Sorry to break the bad news.

[12-08-2008,12:47]
[***.254.208.246]
DC
(in reply to: Expired PR Card and my immigration Status)
DC me too! I would love to know who told him that whopper of a story.

So lets look at his posting which I may have wrong.

Sam claims in the first five years he spent 11 months in Canada---hmmmm

What gets me is this quote "and 2 months after my PR Card expire date". One would assume he is in Canada today.

If that is the case he arrived in Canada by car or plane and should have been written up for residency violations but wasn´t! The issue is 760 days in any 5 year period.

Can we assume you have been in Canad for at least 2 months or sixty days? So do you have 670 days to go or would the number be a little less.

Well how is your status?

Did you get caught doing 50 K over the limit in Ontario last week--no so then you did not loose your car? Does not mean that you didn´t break the Law.

If you fill in this form http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/pdf/kits/forms/IMM5444E.pdf while telling the truth about your residence for the last five years even if you have 730 since you apply to renew your PR card it will show that you are not really a PR.

You have a choice stay put and don´t travel or.........

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[12-08-2008,14:18]
[**.55.217.87]
Roy
(in reply to: Expired PR Card and my immigration Status)
Validity of PR card doesn´t mean the validity of PR status necessarily.

So, I assumed that he didn´t stay 730 days out of 5 years (meaning lost his status), but still were able to enter Canada with his valid PR card without any problem at the port of entry.

BUT, I´m sure if now he wants to pply for renewal of his PR card and tellign the truth then his application will be rejected...PR status is gone..please leave Canada by...

[12-08-2008,14:56]
[***.254.208.246]
DC
in reply to some comments for: Expired PR Card and my immigration Status (in reply to: Expired PR Card and my immigration Status)
I am in Canada since Aug 2007 and my PR is expired just last June.
I am working and have a good job in engineering field.I bought an apartment and am not planning to leave Canada.
I landed as immigrant in 2003 and was here just for 2 months and then left Canada and in 2007 i came back and stayed for one month in April , then i left and came back in Aug 2007 to stay as my new home country.
I met with a lawyer and he told me if i stay in Canada and never leave the country before Aug 2009 then i can apply to renew my PR.
I even made a phone call to the immigration office and they told me that the PR Card is necessary to come back to Canada.
But due to my job status, my employer company is asking me to participate in short ( 5 days) meetings in the states some often.
My wife got her citizenship 4 months ago because she stayed in Canada more than 3 years during the 5 years.
Anyway, I am confused and worry about my status.
Please let me know what to do?

Sam

[16-08-2008,01:59]
[**.225.243.135]
Sam
Expired PR Card and my immigration Status posting (in reply to: Expired PR Card and my immigration Status)
how did you enter canada in august 2007? did you had any issues at the port of entry?
[19-09-2008,01:23]
[**.26.182.114]
ihas
Renewal of PR (in reply to: Expired PR Card and my immigration Status)
My husband and my family got PR in Aug 2004. I stayed in Canada for one and half year and came back with husband and daughter to India. . My husband just spent 11 months in Canada. Can he stay continuously from Dec 2008 and apply after he completes 730 days. I need just 6 months to complete my residency obligations. The main reason I could not complete residency obligation was my mother is very sick and bedridden in India.
[30-10-2008,01:24]
[***.163.202.201]
Kiran
(in reply to: Expired PR Card and my immigration Status)
Sam,

Why were you out of the country? Where were you and what were you doing? Were you working for this engineering firm? Is it Canadian?

I think the info the lawyer gave you is crap. You have to be in the country for 760 days in any 5 year period and you didn´t fulfill this. Staying now, doesn´t change the fact of what you have done for the past 5 years.

If you can tell us where you were and what you were doing we may be able to shed more light.

[30-10-2008,03:42]
[**.156.66.94]
Carrie
working for Canadian company (in reply to: Expired PR Card and my immigration Status)
Dear Sir,
My company is registered in Canada but head office is in Europe.I was hired in Canada and the company wants to send me out of Canada frequently. Can I count those days when I am out of Canada for company´s work. The company is registerd in Canada but Head office is somewhere else. My question is if it is not a Canadian Company, whether my stay out of Canada for this company will be counted for residence purpose? Please clarify.
Thanks.

[08-11-2008,02:34]
[**.150.186.54]
Krishnan
(in reply to: Expired PR Card and my immigration Status)
Hi,
I have a simple query,
Is there any way to bring the immigtaion status Alive, once you have clearly violated the residential obligations.
I mean to say, can we Reapply for Canadian immigration, after we have lost the PR status?

Regards,

Zil

[21-11-2008,13:07]
[**.4.38.213]
Zil Alsahir
Expired Permanent residents Card (in reply to: Expired PR Card and my immigration Status)
Dear Sir,
My wife is from Belgium and has an expired PR card. I am a Canadian Citizen and we are presently living in the Middle East for my work. The CIC website stated that as long as she has been with me in the Middle East this counts for days in Canada. Which I assume fulfills PR requirements for reapplication. The Embassy here in Abu Dhabi has been extremely unhelpful.

My question is: Can she apply from abroad to have a renewed card and pick it up when we return to Canada this summer. Or, can we apply abroad and have it sent to the Canadian Embassy in Abu Dhabi for pick up. They apparently have a CIC satellite office there as indicated by the CIC website although the Embassy denies this.

Finally, is it better to just use a travel document issued by CIC each time we travel back to Canada and only reapply for the PR card once we come back to live in Canada for good? Thank you so much.

[16-01-2009,03:28]
[**.119.98.205]
Harold