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Subject: H&C application
  We have been here for over 11 years. 7 years ago applied for PR and my husband was found inadmissibel on ground of short and mandatory military service. All appeals were turned down including PRRA: now we are going for appeal again. CSIS and CBSA are determined to remove us.
However, we considering H&C, but I don´t know if it will help with my husband status. But can my son (17) apply without including us.

[29-09-2008,21:06]
[**.156.105.119]
dimitra
Best Forum (in reply to: H&C application)
I am sure that visitors of this forum also go to others..what´s the best forum available (don´t tell me this one!)? Thanks.
[30-09-2008,04:00]
[**.115.77.146]
Anonymous
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Dimitra

Okay so your husband and you were here for four years before you applied for PR.

Short and mandatory military service seems so illogical a reason to find one inadmissible since many countries still require their young males to go through military service. R U sure?

You claim "all (appeals) were turned down"! That is plural!

You now have lost your PRRA and your going to appeal the negative PRRA decision---hmmmmmmm

It sure seems you have legal counsel who has been advising you to appeal, appeal, and appeal so why have you not asked your legal counsel?

H&C applications do not prevent removal and a H&C application at this stage would not help.

Now your 17 year old would be applying as what?

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[30-09-2008,08:43]
[**.52.218.208]
Roy
(in reply to: H&C application)
Roy
Why are u always so poisoned????????????????????

[30-09-2008,14:39]
[**.56.228.197]
Anonymous
H&C application (in reply to: H&C application)
Roy, our file is also was sent to Minister of Public Safety (although it was already there for 5 years), and we are still waiting for his decision on removal of the inadmissibility. However, my question is whether my son can apply for H&C without including us. He has good ground as he will be enrolled in military upon his 18th if returned back to Russia + he has no proper knowledge of his native language to be able to take university courses,
and he lived here for almost 11 years.
Dimitra

[01-10-2008,02:56]
[**.156.105.119]
dimitra
(in reply to: H&C application)
Dimitra

When you go to www.cic.gc.ca hit the search button and look up operational manuals. Then go to InLand Processing then look at IP5 which is H&C and then chapter 5.19 I think should be best interest of the child. read the bullets!

He would have an issue with the military but it would be no different then any other Russian child. Now that said there is all kinds of stuff on how they are treated there etc. etc. The focus is his language ability and how that would affect his education.

TY for NOT seeing my earlier response as poisoned!

Dmitra you know that you and your family have made a mess of your applications. The Chen family had already applied as H&C and did not inform me that they had previously submitted an H&C. I did not and never would raised any issue of risk in an H&C because CIC officers then wash their hands of the issue and send it to the PRRA Office. I joined the H&C files one at Etobicoke CIC and the other at Scarborough CIC because the first H&C application had already been in process for a year.

PRRA Officers view any H&C application through a PRRA Officer eyes and not as a CIC H&C Officer would have to assess the same application as per the IP5 Manual. They focus too much on risk to the persons life.

Honestly the chances of success for your son now are so small it is really not worth even applying. Sorry!

56.228.197 When one answers a post here the answer is only as detailed as the question asked.
Dimitra claimed she has access to at least one Legal Counsel and has appealed and appealed.
Dimitra claimed she waited four years before ever applying for anything!
Dimitra claimed they just lost their PRRA and are going to appeal again! SO THEY HAVE LEGAL COUNSEL!
56.228.197 when a person gets a negative PRRA decision they also are told this is your flight, get on this plane, get out!!!!!!
or you can appeal LOL LOL LOL ask for a deferral of removal LOL LOL LOL

Dimitra is grasping at straws she is better off buying a 6/49 ticket tonight it is worth $35,000,000 Canadian.

Dimitra knows she got PLENTY of bad advice. She was probably told to submit a Refugee claim FOUR YEARS AFTER HER ARRIVAL!

At least I told her the truth and probably saved her a few hundred if not a few thousand dollars.

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[01-10-2008,08:23]
[**.52.218.13]
Roy
H&C application (in reply to: H&C application)
Than you for reminding to buy my next Lottery. This is a thougtful advice, thank you.
However, I tell that sometimes it is worth trying. Roy, you were trying to help Chen family even though they didn´t have much of a luck and have made a mess of there applications. So, we´ll see.....

[03-10-2008,02:12]
[**.156.105.119]
dimitra
Similar situation (in reply to: H&C application)
Dear Dimitra, please contact me as I and my family have similar situation. Please email me at Raf69ella@yandex.ru
and we can share information and maybe help each other in this horrible situation :-((

[04-10-2008,17:01]
[**.233.144.47]
Vendeta
(in reply to: H&C application)
Hi everyone. I have a question here :

!. What kind of letters PRRA office send to people when the decision rendered ? What do they send if it is positive? If negative ? If I got letter from PRRA office in Toronto near Pearson Airport saying that decision was rendered and that I must attend in person to get it by hand. And that I must bring Id´s, passport pix, travel documents etc... And at the end of the letter warning that if I will not attend the warrant for my arrest will be issued everywhere in Canada. The PRRA officer was making deceision both on PRRA and HCG applications. I dont understand how come you cannot include risk elements in HCG when you are applyed on PRRA later, they will find out anyway, and will forward it to PRRA !!! Otherwise how it is possible legally remain in Canada without PRRA in case of failed refugee claimant/failed appeal !!! Please I need to know what kind of letters they send from PRRA Office ! Please help !!! I will die untill end of october !!! I need to know ! If there any chance to find out the deceision earlier ?

[04-10-2008,17:14]
[**.233.144.47]
Vendeta
H&C application (in reply to: H&C application)
Vendeta,

I am a permanent resident but remainder of my family which consists of siblings and parents are under the same scenario as you are and are asked to come to the office on Airport rd with the same stuff you have written to bring with them. I was wondering if you could give me some idea as what they did with you and if you were approved. Their date is on Dec 10, 2008.

Please advise as soon as possible!
SA

[11-11-2008,22:24]
[**.242.39.67]
SA
H&C Appication (in reply to: H&C application)
Or does anyone know or knows who has been in this situation? Does someone know why they would ask for 4 pictures?
Please help... I have the same case as Vendeta.

Roy can you help advise?

[11-11-2008,23:03]
[**.242.39.67]
SA