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When one decides to come to Canada and make a Refugee Claim the normal place to seek protection is at the Airport or Port of Entry. The CBSA officer will take down information and will render a decision on whether or not your eligible. The information you provide at that time will be part of your REfugee claim hearing.
Detention is assessed on three main factors;
Danger to the Public
Unlikely to Appear
Identity
When one decides to make an In Land application for Refugee Protection make sure you take with you some proof you are a Citizen from the country your seeking protection from.
You would think that this is such a silly thing to comment on but just last week I had three people in Detention because they made a Refugee claim and could not prove they were Citizens of the country from which they were seeking protection. Any government ID will suffice.
Remember for those who like to hide their passport and make an In Land Refugee claim one of the sure ways to loose is to delay in making your claim. The longer it takes you to seek protection the less likely the IRB Member will believe your story.
Common Sense People
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[27-10-2008,11:02]
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Roy |
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(in reply to: Detention Issues)
I guess they ate their passports?
[27-10-2008,11:39]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Detention Issues)
Sharon
Some get admitted under other peoples passports and some as visitors with a CVV in their passport. Others flush and I bet your right some eat their passports literally.
Then when they decide to make an In Land Refugee claim they want to hold onto to that passport and forget to bring ID with them.
If they are unwilling to provide ID they sit in detention until the cows come home or until the swallows return.
I currently have a client who was believed that she was Falun Gong but did not provide sufficent evidence to prove she was Chinese. Lost the appeal and now CBSA is attempting to remove her to China.
Logic?
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[27-10-2008,12:48]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Detention Issues)
Is CBSA ever going to implement biometrics in their visas system?.
I mean, the yanks have been using them for a few years now in their visas at the POE. When a visa is required, digital finger prints and a picture is taken right at the POE to verifiy the identity of an alien who is seeking entry into the US.
It will help to avoid people using someone else´s Passport and visa to enter Canada.
Cheers,
Bill
[27-10-2008,14:21]
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Bill |
(in reply to: Detention Issues)
Bill with the millions of illegals in the US are you really suggesting that the US system is better?
The BIG problem as I see it Bill is that 49% of all refugee claimants WIN. It is in my opinion (only) a make work project.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[27-10-2008,19:14]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Detention Issues)
Oh no, I am not saying that the US system is better by any means. But the procedure that CBSA has in their POE to verify false documents is old as dirt.
A Canadian visa doesn´t even have a picture attached to it.
No biometrics are taken in the embassy nor at the POE.
So, any person with a Passport and a government ID can make a claim at the POE as a refugee and CBSA will let him/her in?
He/she may be denied the status, but they are already in the country. How many of them are illegaly here?
49% that is crazy. How many of them are actually in need of protection?
How many of them are using their nationality just as an excuse to obtain a PR status?
The screening for refugees has to be improved.
Cheers,
Bill
[27-10-2008,20:11]
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Bill |
(in reply to: Detention Issues)
See Bill we think a little different up here. We call freedom fighters, freedom fighters, this year and next.
Constantly telling the population who to hate is really rediculous.
It is better to allow all claimants in then to refuse one in real need of protection. Same death penalty arguement.
I agree totally the the approval rate is far to high. Or as in both our words CRAZY!!!
Lets look at this from another side.
Would a picture on a CVV severly decrease the chance of a real refugee reaching Canadian shores. SURE WOULD. The vast majority of REAL refugees come on false documents any ways.
My point was if your going to make a refugee claim at any time for Pete Sake have at least something available to prove which country your a citizen of. Why soend days in detentioin especially when your relatives know your coming.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[28-10-2008,06:09]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Detention Issues)
the high number of illgals in the us is more due to their proximity to mexico , sice the mexican represent more than 90 pr cent of illegals and not to their systeme
thats a fact for exemple we have to mention
[28-10-2008,11:19]
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funfacts |
(in reply to: Detention Issues)
The thing is though, if you are traveling with a false document why on earth would you travel with a little piece of paper hidden in your suitcase with your real name?
If you get caught before reaching our borders you will be in a big hoo hoo.
There is where I think biometrics will work.
Or put under detention the individual until his/her relative back home, mails him/her a piece of governemnt ID?
The question is:
Do we have the right tools and training to do what we are doing when dealing with people traveling with false documents and seeking a refugee status in our borders?
The government has to make it a priority until then, cases like this will continue to happen and applications will be sitting in the limbo.
I can picture three shelfs in the Processing Centre.
1- Waiting to be processed
2- Waiting to be finalized
3- Waiting for inspiration.
Cheers,
Bill
[28-10-2008,13:35]
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Bill |
