New Rules #2

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Subject: New Rules #2
  I don´t know for sure - but here are my thoughts on the subject.

Some countries have 4-6 year waits for FSW. If your skill is not part of the 38 NOC codes you have 2 options- get a job offer (PNP) or continue to wait in the existing line for a chronological review.

If you still have 2+ years of waiting and you are one of the 38 NOC codes - my logic would tell me to withdraw the application and re-apply under the new rules. why? because your application will be looked at immediately. There could very well be an adjustment in NOC codes at a future date but for now, this is what we are going to be living with.

Roy, tell me if I am missing something?

[29-11-2008,17:41]
[***.20.116.15]
Sharon
(in reply to: New Rules #2)
Bingo and remember you mail it to Canada not your Visa Post

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[29-11-2008,20:19]
[**.15.48.92]
Roy
(in reply to: New Rules #2)
that is a huge change!

Send your application and processing fee to the appropriate office. One of these three scenarios should apply to you:

If you have arranged employment, you will apply to the visa office responsible for your country of nationality or residence.

If you are a foreign national who has been living legally in Canada for one year as a temporary foreign worker or an international student, you will apply to the visa office in Buffalo, New York (United States) or at the visa office responsible for your country of nationality. See the list of Canadian Visa Offices to find out where to submit your application.

All other federal skilled worker applicants will apply to Sydney, Nova Scotia (Canada). You will receive a letter advising you whether or not your application will be further assessed by a visa office.



[29-11-2008,20:30]
[***.20.116.15]
Sharon
New Rules #2 (in reply to: New Rules #2)
Would they not try to complete all of the backlog first for those who applied before 27 Feb 2008 and then start with the new batch of applications?

If they don´t do that then they will have a backlog that would move slowly.

Did they make it clear that those who apply now will go ahead of those who applied before 27 Feb 2008?

The new rules seem to be created in a way so that less applications would be sent through for initial assessment.
It is possible a lot of the applications would be returned if they are not on the 38 NOC list at the AOR stage, cause the first thing they would do is look at the NOC code you put down on your application and decide whether to return it.

[29-11-2008,21:11]
[**.69.173.51]
KSN
(in reply to: New Rules #2)

hi Ms Sharon:

I posted my question earlier but got no response:

its about my friend who after finishing her work as caregiver for 24 months...she was released by the employer...

shes so confused..can she avail applying to buffalo?

pls help...pls..

thank you so much..

[29-11-2008,21:56]
[**.250.84.37]
Anonymous
(in reply to: New Rules #2)
250.84.37

People pick and decide which question they wish to respond to.

Your friend can only apply if she has completed two years of employment.

When one jumps into a (subject) and say (hey answer me I´m the most important) your lucky someone did not blast you.

Now back to the conversation at hand.

The new rules where created to make an appearance that the current Conservative government is trying to do something. There is nothing in the new rules that creates a situation that Canada can get the best Nurse, Construction Manager, etc. etc.

Plus since most of these occupations require that the applicant be a member of a Provincial Regulatory Body I can see virtually no benefit.

I count 27 of the occupations as occupations that are regulated in Ontario.

Plenty of the occupations start with the word Supervisor so we are talking about an age issue as well.

50% of all Temporary Worker applications from the Americas and Europe are approved in under 7 days. Most African and Asian countries require CVV´s so that means they would have to apply for a TRV and that could be a reason for the processing times difference. Is that not PROMPT processing?

CEC sounded great but only 120 applied!!!!!

This is not as great as it seems. I had a Nurse contact me from Texas and the Registered Nurse wanted to apply this way. I said NO.........go after the LMO and then PR status. Far Better Option!!!!!

Has any one realized CIC only started hiring staff for the CEC applications in late September when they started processing in October and now these FSW Occupations will be sent through the same office.

Slow down people look what happened at Walmart on Black Friday......the herd mantaliity can get you trappled.

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[29-11-2008,23:14]
[**.15.48.92]
Roy
(in reply to: New Rules #2)


BUNCH OF THANKS ROY!!!

what a hope!...when youre at the end of your wits and drowning
for the time is ticking...youd tend to shout for HELP!!!




anyway, thanks thanks thanks....really appreciate your time and things i learn here...






[30-11-2008,00:02]
[**.250.84.37]
Anonymous
(in reply to: New Rules #2)
in the mean time, (until they sort themselves out) embassies will continue processing old applications as usual.
[30-11-2008,00:10]
[***.20.116.15]
Sharon
(in reply to: New Rules #2)
I did not see any official CIC publication that stated the 38 list will be treated as high processing priority-- getting ahead in line before the old,pre Feb2008 inventory that MUST be processed.If you waited for 2 years and submit a new case to NS,once the file gets to the visa office it is not moving into immediate processing.The application guide states that it would take several weeks for NS to determine eligibility and forward the case to the visa office.It does not say anything about the procedure at the visa office.Only applications with Arranged employment and those from in Canada students/workers go to immediate processing.
They are talking about 6-12 months of processing time,but that´s only after they deal with the current inventory.No one said new cases in NS will get these processing time from the outset.

Amir
www.greatnorthimmigration.com


[30-11-2008,16:37]
[**.225.73.130]
Amir
(in reply to: New Rules #2)
the 38 list will be the ONLY applications processed amongst post Feb 08 applications. the rest will be sent back with a refund. that starts technically today. Chronological order does not apply to post Feb 08 applications.

That in no way changes Arranged employment or PNP applications and how they are handled.

Current inventory - are you talking post Feb 08 or pre Feb 08? I imagine it will take a few months to get the stalled applications caught up but once they do - I suspect they will deal with them as promised.

As for the backlog of pre Feb 08... my guess is that they will work away at them when all the other categories are dealt with and use them to round out the annual quotas. In some cases I am guessing the wait just got a whole lot longer because they have to look at every file - even if someone has changed their mind, died or does not remotely qualify.

the instructions are 48 hours old. how this all rolls out is still a mystery. we won´t know until it happens. we can speculate all we want - really does not change much.


[30-11-2008,16:48]
[***.20.116.15]
Sharon
(in reply to: New Rules #2)
Sharon,

No question about the post Feb2008 cases.If you are not on the 38 list you are out of luck.The rest will start being processed(all my recent FSW clients receive "provisional" file numbers).

All kind of procedural fairness questions can rise from the manner in which the pre Feb2008 inventory is dealt with.Does a file with one of the 38 codes which was submitted before Feb2008 will only enjoy the high priority if it is withdrawn from the visa office and resubmitted to NS?

What about the cases from pre Feb2008 that don´t have a 38 code?How long are you going to keep them on hold?CIC is saying these cases are not affected by the new rules,but if the processing priority for them is so low they are constantly being pushed back,then those CIC clients are not being treated fairly even if the department did not retroactively applied the changes like in 2002.

As you said,we have to wait for more information.







[30-11-2008,17:35]
[**.225.73.130]
Amir