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Subject: hellthcare
  After we did talk about wellfare and homles people who are dying on strets,I like to talk about hellth care .
The canadian people say they have the best helth care in all worlld
One month ago in Montreal a men in his 50s go to the ER for a help because was not filling good,after 4 hours waeting to see a doctor or a nurse puf he die(poor men) non doctor or nurse give him any help in 4 hours
10 days ago a mother with her child go to see a doctor in ER one a clock in the morning from one a clock to six a clock in the morning no doctor or nurse visit her child, she after did go to see a private doctor(75$).
I will like to know Madams Sharon opinion or Mr Roy(the fillozof)

(in reply to: hellthcare)
Stop trying to pretend you are not knowledgeable in the English language. If you have a mirror in your bathroom go talk to it your more likely to get more responses.

I know of not one Canadian that claims our Health Care System is the best in the world.

Go watch SICKO you might see a reason why some like it.

I a Canadian prefer the Danish system over the French or the English health care system. I know ours can and should be better but with your negative thinking your life will only get worse.

Sorry for your woes. Bye


(in reply to: hellthcare)
I normally don´t like responding to postings that have a personal tone, but this topic seems to need input.

"In 2002, the Institute of Medicine (IOM) estimated that 18,000 Americans died in 2000 because they were uninsured. Since then, the number of uninsured has grown. Based on the IOM´s methodology and subsequent Census Bureau estimates of insurance coverage, 137,000 people died from 2000 through 2006 because they lacked health insurance, including 22,000 people in 2006."

In Canada, the above would not happen. In the U.S., and most of the 2nd and 3rd world, no one has a right to health care. In Canada, although wait times may exist and be unfairly excessive, everyone has a right to free healthcare. Wait times in the U.S. are also a big problem. HMOs and PPOs (American health care burocracies) have strict limitations. General Practioners and specialists are often booked 2-3 months in advance. Amercian hospitals also have emergency room pateints waiting hours to be seen.

It´s easy to point out negative anecdotes of any system (as in the top post), but for overall social benefit, the Candadian model works well. No one is scared to lose their health care if their job disappears in Canada. In the States, many people are miserable in their jobs, but stay just to keep health care coverage. Talk about employment slavery.

Fillozof translates to philospher, so Stav is probably not a native English speaker.

(in reply to: hellthcare)
TY Richard

When I returned to Canada after being out of Canada for a considerable amount of time I found it difficult to find a Doctor taking new patients but we did.

Now I have a family Doctor that I can visit anytime for a yearly medical even if I´m not ill. We have nurses that I visit on a regular basis to assist me with a medical concern on a regular basis for free.

I wish Canada had a drug plan like they do in England where all drugs are the same price.

I´m a diabetic and on Insulin. I pay for my Insulin and have purchased the same product produced by the same company in five different countries. In four of the five countries the price of my Insulin is all within $5.00 dollars taking into account the exchange rate.

In the USA I pay $25.00 more for the same Insulin.

Maybe I should of gone looking for that drug company bus driving around all over America.


(in reply to: hellthcare)
TY Roy for sharing your background, as it excellently supports the point being made here.

That pharma bus is ridiculuos in my opinion. It´s a sneaky and cheap public relations stunt by the medical/big pharma lobby to avoid its responsibilities, and attempts to make people believe it solves the access and unaffordability problem.

(in reply to: hellthcare)
I am 100% Canadian and I have never once heard anyone say that it is the best healthcare in the world.
But it is pretty damn good comparing to many, many other countries.
Again, to any immigrants who have a problem with Canada, leave. It is simple as that. Or appreciate what we do have...a beautiful country that we should all be very thankful for.

Tim Horton\\\'s
(in reply to: hellthcare)
HaHaHaHa do not be engry Mr ROY is not good for your diabet, I am just telling the really life in Canada,the problems who the new immigrants will face in Canada evry day that is all.Anyway I wish you Happy New Year!!! and all the best to you and your family,bye I will talk to you next year.
Mr Richard you are right i am not english speaker, i am learning here in this forum.
Hej duble duble 100% Canadian, sometime the problems are beater to be discuses because like this Canada can be more beautiful

(in reply to: hellthcare)
this is a really bad place to learn english. try somewhere else.
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