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To All
Always think before you act.
Admitting to something over the phone by calling the tele-centre can get you into serious trouble. When one calls 1-888-242-2100 and finally gets a person to speak to sometimes they persons can blurt out I said this when I meant this. Tell the person with my file it was a mistake.
Calls to the tele-centre are recorded!!!!
Let us look at it this way. Police officer pulls you over for speeding and you hand the officer a written statement signed by you that you were going 28 kilometers an hour over the speed limit. Then you go to court and try to say that information was incorrect.
Now this low level government employee at the tele-centre wants to be promoted like most others in a dead end job. He/She could send an e-mail to the local office saying recording 12365a-5632 on DATE will confirm a lie/misrepresentation on file 4563-2589 which is currently at your office.
Then the local real Immigration Officer/Clerk puts a NCB on your file. NCB Non Computer Based entry which no one will get under an access to information request. This NCB is an interpretation of what was said because they do not have the time or staff to investigate every recording.
Three or more years later when and if your taken to a hearing for your comments - misrepresentation the NCB will be on the officers file but not something you can dispute because it will never be disclosed by the hearings officer how they obtained the information.
Remember you can say it happened because of XYZ and they write down it was because of ABC.
Be careful out there.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[23-02-2009,09:27]
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Roy |
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(in reply to: Calling Immigration)
You can drop that statment in a court of law though. There is no supporting documentation for the NBC. Just because a person from the call centre wrote down that recording number XXXXX confirms lie/misrepresentation doesn´t mean is true.
One reason:
That person is not qualified to make such statment. It goes against the process to reject an applicant since the source is not reliable and what is recorded can be easily explain. That´s why recording used in a court of law have a process based in questions and answers with some exceptions (under cover investigations) an statment made by a person over the phone is not enough.
I will eat alive a government official in a court
of law if he/she uses that as a reason reject an applicant.
It´s like asking:
Q: Were you present when your picture was taken?
Q: Was it you or your younger brother who was killed in the war?
Q: Did he kill you?
Q: How far apart were the vehicles at the time of the collision?
Q: You were there until the time you left, is that true?
Cheers
Bill
[23-02-2009,20:25]
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Bill |
(in reply to: Calling Immigration)
Well HOW DEE DO Bill?
The difference is Bill the rules of evidence in any Appeal are not based on the same principles as a Court of Law!
Page Twelve found here http://www.irb-cisr.gc.ca/en/references/legal/all/weighevid/evidence_e.pdf
In weighing and assessing evidence, it should always be kept in mind that the Immigration and Refugee
Board is not a court of law, but an administrative tribunal which is not bound by the strict rules of
evidence.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[23-02-2009,22:17]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Calling Immigration)
Hmmm interesting. I learned something new today.
Thanks Roy,
Cheers,
Bill
[24-02-2009,02:19]
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Bill |
