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I have asked several lawyers and consultants re our case and am told it is complicated?
I don?t see it that way but of course I have no experience in this area so I don?t know what to think and what our chances of success will be.
I am a Canadian citizen living with my common law spouse in the Philippines for 3 years.
I am on pension, make good money, pay taxes in Canada and own my own home there. I have no criminal record or sponsorship issues.
I was previously married and have divorce certificate, separated 11 years. Was in a 5 year common law relatinship and have no legal seperation agreement, we had no kids and no assets. I just made a declaration of severance of common law relationship and signed it.
She is married in the Philippines (there is no divorce here) she has a separation agreement they both signed. Also affidavits confirming their date of separation from her lawyer, mother and cousin.
She is healthy has no criminal issues and can get NBI clearance. She was refused a tourist visa application in 2007.
We have a joint bank acct. Joint lease, joint monthly rent receipts, gym membership receipts monthly and cable bill. Also our drivers licence at the same address and mail to both of us at our address. I have 5 notarized letters from close friends validating our relationship and how long we have lived together.
We have purchased a building lot in both names in March 08 and recently a car in both our names. I have e mails from friends to me since Oct 06 when I met her validating how long we have been in our relationship.
We have e mails to each other when we were apart and her phone bill showing she called me every day.
I feel we have covered all bases, I would really appreciate it if some of the extremely knowledgable folks on this forum could offer their opinions of our chances to succeed to get my wife to Canada, god I want to go home.
Regards,
mr magoo.
[09-04-2009,09:47]
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mr magoo
Mr. Magoo´s sponsorship case (in reply to: Living together overseas, is our case complicated?)
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The strength of a sponsorship case is a relative issue.
Is you case as straightforward as that of a couple married for 5 years with 2 kids together?No
Is it as weak as that of the folks I represent in the IRB who got married 6 days after the sponsor arrived in China?No
With client groups who are not TRV exempt CIC will take on the gatekeepers approach and will scrutinize the case carefully,in many cases preferring to let you fight an appeal in the Immigration Appeal Division than approving the case at the visa office level.
Sometimes CIC will consent to the appeal after an alternative dispute resolution (ADR) confrence.
But this is the bottom line:
the industry going rate for a sponsorship case is in the area of CAD$2,000.00.
Obviously you have to fork money for government fees,medicals,translations etc.Expenses you will incur whether you are represented or not.
CAD$2,000.00 is a fixed damage to your pocket.That is it.That is all the money you need to hire a reputable authorized rep.
If you make mistakes on this application and don?t present the case well, you might end up waiting for your appeal hearing for about a year.Assuming you win,it will take several additional months for the visa office to wrap the case.
I can understand why many economic class immigrants do not hire professional representation.They do not have ties to Canada and they are willing to roll the dice on the process.But in a spousal/common-law sponsorship case you have nowhere to go.Most people would fight to bring their partner until all options are exhausted.
If you absolutely cannot afford paying for full representation in the case, get someone reputable to review the complete application for you.I am sure you can find someone to take a look at the complete package before it goes to CPC-Mississauga.A couple of good tips might change the outcome for you.
Maybe you have a boat load of documentary evidence and you can really avoid paying someone but you admitted yourself you are struggling to properly asses your case.
Good luck
Amir
www.greatnorthimmigration.com
[10-04-2009,11:59]
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Amir
Living together overseas, is our case complicated? (in reply to: Living together overseas, is our case complicated?)
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Thanks for your response, but it sure didnt do a thing for me.
I know how to fill out the forms and I cannot evaluate the case because I am not an immigration officer or have any experience in assesing these cases.
That is exactly why I was hoping a senior knowldedgable member would help me with that, not solicit the fact that I should get help with my application.
I am confident it is thorough, well organized and feel we have done all we can, but would appreciate an opinion from an experienced person
Regards,
Raymond.
[11-04-2009,09:14]
[***.127.218.207]
Ray Crawford
Raymond (in reply to: Living together overseas, is our case complicated?)
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It is a weak case.Good luck
[13-04-2009,13:01]
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Amir
(in reply to: Living together overseas, is our case complicated?)
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look at the online immigration manuals. everything the immigration officer looks for is there. it even tells them what they should do.
all that is for free and you will have a better idea what CIC is looking for and what your chances are.
[13-04-2009,15:51]
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Sharon
Sharon (in reply to: Living together overseas, is our case complicated?)
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He wants to know if the case is complicated or not.
How do you judge that?
I think one way is the issue of the interview.In clear cut cases the interview is waived.I do not believe it will happen here.
He can read the manuals 20 times and still won?t be able to dodge the interview.
I believe there is bias against TRV non-exempt applicants.
[14-04-2009,10:47]
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Amir
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I do not see interviews as the end of the earth. Our friend seems to have substantial evidence that the relationship is legitimate so what is there to fear?
I choose to differ with you on the manuals. They tell you exactly what CIC is looking for and what items of evidence add or detract from the application.
Reading the manuals is FREE. After that, if there is doubt... then it is time to get out the wallet.
[14-04-2009,15:13]
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Sharon
Living together overseas, is our case complicated? (in reply to: Living together overseas, is our case complicated?)
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Thanks Sharon for your response, it is much appreciated. Can you please tell me how to access the Immigration manuals?
And perhaps our very knowledgable friend Amir can explain to us why it is a weak case, I would be really interested in his rational.
Regards,
Raymond.
[15-04-2009,22:32]
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mr magoo
(in reply to: Living together overseas, is our case complicated?)
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http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/resources/manuals/op/index.asp
I believe you want OP2
[15-04-2009,22:56]
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Sharon
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"I was previously married and have divorce certificate, separated 11 years. Was in a 5 year common law relatinship and have no legal seperation agreement, we had no kids and no assets. I just made a declaration of severance of common law relationship and signed it.
She is married in the Philippines (there is no divorce here) she has a separation agreement they both signed. Also affidavits confirming their date of separation from her lawyer, mother and cousin.
She is healthy has no criminal issues and can get NBI clearance. She was refused a tourist visa application in 2007. " ---- Previous relationships on both sides of the case,previous TRV refusal(was the purpose of the application at least to visit YOU?),you are not married.
I am not saying a refusal is a certainty but it does not look like a straightforward case.
[20-04-2009,23:18]
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[23-04-2009,00:15]
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mr magoo |
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(in reply to: Roy would you please comment on my question?)
your case is what it is. It is time to submit your application to the best of your abilities and take your chances or leave it in God´s hands - which ever you prefer.
It is yes until they say no or the other way around. you cannot alter the facts and you cannot lie so, take a deep breath, make sure you have exhausted the questions and put the application in the mail.
good luck.
[23-04-2009,03:39]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Roy would you please comment on my question?)
You are in a solid conjugal relationship! You know it!!!!
I do not think I have ever met Amir at the IAD. I currently have so many Spousal Appeals I have run out of file space. I always thought I controlled the Chinese bogus marriage appeals from Fuzhou, LOL
Having a baby does not make a marriage real and having 2 babies raises more questions then answers.
If you have all this stuff plus photos showing the too of you having FUN and LAUGHING together your spousal application will be a walk in the park.
See it is common sense to me and you. So it will be common sense to the Visa Officer.
Take your time on the forms.
Best of luck!
Roywww.cvimmigration.com
[23-04-2009,09:10]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Roy would you please comment on my question?)
I for one would never review Mr. Magoo forms that he has completed himself and I do not know of one other Immigration Consultant or Lawyer that would review his self completed forms either.
Why would anyone AUTHORIZED review someones work and sign off on the work?????????????
All CSIC members have to have contracts with every single client detailing expectations and work performed.
Time is money and if AMIR has sufficient time to sign off on an application which then would require a Use of Representative Form to be submitted as per the IRPR regulations he is opening himself up to a ton of complaints!
If the client is unwilling to pay your fees get him at the appeal stage.
I for one would never risk a complaint by a client who is too cheap to consider paying for quality representation of his/her partners spousal application.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[23-04-2009,10:30]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Roy would you please comment on my question?)
"I do not think I have ever met Amir at the IAD"
--got more intelligent stuff to spew ROY?
"Time is money and if AMIR has sufficient time to sign off on an application which then would require a Use of Representative Form to be submitted as per the IRPR regulations he is opening himself up to a ton of complaints! "
Well ROY, now why would you open your mouth and suggest things about how I deal or would deal in some speculative scenario with a client?
I did not address you or your practice in any of my posts and yet you are jumping up and down all over the place.
[23-04-2009,19:05]
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Amir |
(in reply to: Roy would you please comment on my question?)
you have elected to pitch your website, forum and services here. That sets you up for scrutiny- like it or not.
You would be far better off to simply sign your posts in the same way Roy and others do and have customers seek you out on their own, or do like the countless other agencies do - invest in Google Ads.
It is obvious that you are new in the industry and I can appreciate that you want to create your own following of clientelle. Roy has been helping out here for years. When you have done the same, your forum will have participants, and you will have customers calling you for assistance.
Cookies and milk don´t bring people through the door-experience and credibility does.
Unfortunatly, that does not happen over night or by offering 20 minute freebees.
[24-04-2009,02:46]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Roy would you please comment on my question?)
Amir
I post here normally every morning while playing poker. Mainly because some give bad advice. Or worse some post a question and answer it themselves by saying I would hire ABC company and they are the ones that posted the question in the first place.
Mr. Magoo asked me to respond to his posting after you claimed his case (based on what he posted) was not simple in fact you wrote "It is a weak case.Good luck"
This is the Internet and you were called on your opinion by the original poster and you did not say why you felt his case was a weak case. Why?
NOW INSTEAD OF PICKING UP THE PHONE AND CALLING ME YOU CHOOSE TO DEBATE THIS FURTHER HERE??????
Is that wise?
This is my second home lol.
When you quote me Amir copy and paste the whole quote not just "I do not think I have ever met Amir at the IAD" because I was responding to what you wrote "Is it as weak as that of the folks I represent in the IRB who got married 6 days after the sponsor arrived in China?No"
You could of said we met and I was the guy who said ___________ about _______.
My response to you was humour but you see venom where it is not intended. I posted this "I always thought I controlled the Chinese bogus marriage appeals from Fuzhou, LOL "
Amir then Susan has written "It is obvious that you are new in the Industry" and no I have never met Susan and never even seen a picture of her. Plenty here can attest to that.
Amir I am not new in the Immigration Business. I´m in the papers on TV and Radio all the time and I am asked for advice from two media outlets in the GTA on a weekly basis.
Amir some here who sign in as anonymous are not nice people. Most have a question and are just a little unsure of the answer.
The intelligent ones DC, Richard, Wannabe, Bill, etc and especially Sharon know the manuals, the regulations and the ACT. Yet you claim a person can read the manuals 20 times and will not be able to dodge the interview, WHY WOULD YOU SAY THAT WITHOUT CLARIFICATION?
You imply that Mr. Magoo and others should if they don´t retain someone to assist them with a spousal application should of at least "get someone reputable to review the complete application for you".
I OPENED MY MOUTH TO GIVE YOU SOLID ADVICE BECAUSE OF WHAT YOU WROTE!
Anything we do with our five senses we interpret and I interpreted your comment as you were suggesting getting an AUTHORIZED REPRESENTATIVE to spend a few minutes reviewing the forms and submissions.
R U stating my advice was incorrect? Does not CSIC and the various Law Societies require a retainer agreement for such work?
I was trying to protect you and other new people in the Industry you took my comment way out of context. I really liked that you used the word (reputable) though when you suggested asking advice from someone.
Now today in this post http://www.canada-city.ca/canada-immigration/posting.php?messageid=26938 we get this advice when choosing between OZ & CA.
But please consult with Consultant, before moving ahead.
WHY?????????????????
Anyone can google now and find the information freely on the Internet but the final decision has to be based on their own personal circumstances.
Any Consultant who deals with OZ will recommend OZ and any Consultant that deals with Canada will recommend Canada.
Is Simran another consultant?
Who cares, I don´t!
I sincerely hope you understand Amir.
Roy
www.cvimmigration.com
[24-04-2009,09:36]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Roy would you please comment on my question?)
Roy and Sharon,
I do understand the suspiciousness and hyper-sensitivity of many in such a popular Canadian immigration open-to-all internet forum.
But since I am a Toronto area CSIC member like you Roy,who is appearing here in my true identity I thought you were a bit out of line with some of the comments.I probably didn´t get the humor.
I have no argument with you regarding the retainer issue.
And I certainly respect your knowledge,experience and the fact you have been in business since 1992.
I run my business the right way and I guess I get a bit annoyed with the fact you always start in this industry from -50 and not from 0 in terms of trust.
I realize decades of people getting scammed by sketchy characters are responsible for these attitudes, it is not Sharon´s invention.
I am not a serial spammer.I revamped the site and trying to drive some traffic.But that is it for this forum.
anyway Roy,If I see you in the CSIC conference I will say hi.
BTW,you realize you will need to change the CSIC logo on your site.They made it sufficiently troublesome to obtain permission for use and copy of the official logo version for me to decide to drop the idea of including it on my site.
[24-04-2009,12:43]
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Amir |
(in reply to: Roy would you please comment on my question?)
I like this ,
first round, Amir 1-0 RoySharon cooperation
when is the second round?
[24-04-2009,17:45]
[***.226.94.111]
stavrimacoku |
(in reply to: Roy would you please comment on my question?)
sad that you think it is a contest. The only winner here is the prospective immigration client.
[24-04-2009,19:33]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Roy would you please comment on my question?)
Again, as long as you can probe that your relationship is genuine I think you would be ok.
Double check your forms and if you are not sure about any specific question ASK!
All the best.
Cheers,
Bill
[24-04-2009,20:22]
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Bill |
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