Proof of Common-Law relationship (Urgent)

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Subject: Proof of Common-Law relationship (Urgent)
  Hi guys,

1)
I am a Canadian citizen and I want to apply for my boy friend through common-law partner category. We have lived together for more than a year, and we have our lease contract which both of us has signed it.

There is a problem and that´s we have not collect our mails from the beginning and I have it just from the last march( we didn´t think we need to go into this process, as he wanted to use the Skilled-Worker category before this)

He has met my family, we have gone to 3 or 4 big trips around Canada, and also lots of friends are witnesses, I do not know is this enough or not? we do not have joint account, trust, credit union..).

I can get some declarations of friends about our relationship, but I do not know how?

and is it enough to just write such a declaration and they sign or we need to go to a court or a lawyer office and do it officially.


2)
Also they need police certificate and my boy friend has been here at Vancouver since 2006, so does he need to get Canadian police certificate too ?( he got his other countries but RCMP didn´t give anything about Canada!!).


3)
Does we need to submit something about " Declaration of severance of common-law relationship" while none of us has been with any other person before??


Ana

[13-08-2009,04:41]
[**.68.113.166]
Ana
(in reply to: Proof of Common-Law relationship (Urgent))
Ana

You ask plenty of questions.

First put down the truth and be sure to show he has been working illegally.

You would not be involved with a man who sleeps most of the day and then only eats and watches TV.

Have your friends write that they have personal knowledge about your relationship because they have been present when ......... happened. They go camping, shopping etc with you guys and that thing happened.

Proof of no convictions from every country he has resided in for more then six months.

If you both have neither been in a common law relationship before how could you submit proof of severance?

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[13-08-2009,06:41]
[**.15.49.17]
Roy
Roy (in reply to: Proof of Common-Law relationship (Urgent))
I am not sure, you understood my situation Roy. My bf has enough money and good job, but he won´t pay attention to this PR case and I won´t want to lose him because of just this. He says he has Temporary resident and he just renew it every time as they need him a lot. I thought this is the easiest way to get this done. He wanted to apply through that Skilled-worker but a friend told him it´s a long "time-consuming" process and so he stopped doing it. He care about his time more than this formalities. There are plenty of other options that he might get his PR. this is a way I want to do it for him and he agreed to finish this nightmare through this category. Right now we have a problem, because we have our lease contract with both names, but no utilities as everything was included. Both of us get all our mails through secure mail-boxes ( because of important mails that we get) which is not our apartment. we have friends, and photos to support our relationship. I am worrying because one of my co-worker told me, that´s not enough! ( she said I need all these which I dont have:
1) joint accounts 2) joint credit cards 3) joint receipts for utilities, home purchases.. 4) mails to same address )
I read the forms they said just one, of those things not all! but she said many cases has been rejected because of that.

[13-08-2009,14:48]
[**.68.113.166]
Ana
(in reply to: Proof of Common-Law relationship (Urgent))
The onus is always on the applicant to prove their relationship and you keep referring to him as your boyfriend!

He is suppose to be your spouse.

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[13-08-2009,15:00]
[**.229.194.175]
Roy
(in reply to: Proof of Common-Law relationship (Urgent))
honest girl to girl advise...CAUTION. Any girl that gets sucked into looking after important, legal issues for a bf simply because he can´t be bothered (or to make sure he sticks around) is making some risky relationship decisions.

Immigration is not child´s play regardless of how he thinks it should be. He needs to get off his ass and prove to you that he is commited to your relationship by either enduring the PNP or Skilled Worker process (1 year or less) or helping you to endure an Outland Sponsorship (which is tough to do if you are claiming common law) That will take a year too. If you attempt an Inland you are looking at 2 years and no chance for appeal.

He is a fool to think he can simply renew a TV ad infinitum. He is going to get caught working and then you are both really up a creek.

Time for him to grow up and time for you to stop being his mother.

Been there, done that and I am telling you sister... it isn´t worth it.

[13-08-2009,15:29]
[***.20.116.15]
Sharon
(in reply to: Proof of Common-Law relationship (Urgent))
Wow! picky man Roy
He is not my husband for sure, so in my terminology there is just boy friend before husband!
You can call it whatever. :D
anyways, are those documents all necessary? and do i have to submit all those? which in my case we have to cancel this application or postpone it to future that we get enough documents.

[13-08-2009,15:34]
[**.68.113.166]
Ana
To Sharon (in reply to: Proof of Common-Law relationship (Urgent))
what´s going on here? why do you guys all trying to make me step back? He deserve anything I do for him, as he has done more than this for me, a lot more. question is some thing different! I can not understand the reason!
Skilled-worker takes more than 1.5 years while Common-Law case is just 6 months.
Get your information up to date sharon

[13-08-2009,15:40]
[**.68.113.166]
Ana
(in reply to: Proof of Common-Law relationship (Urgent))
give your head a shake Ana. New rules for Skilled worker promise an answer within a year, start to finish. Common law applications for Inland are pushing 2 years. it will take almost 6-8 months for you to be approved as a sponsor. Outland applications go faster but how can you prove co-habitation if he is living in his home country?

Roy is suggesting that in the world of CIC sponsorship you use spouse or partner - period. The minute you utter the word boyfriend, CIC will throw your application in the garbage. He is attempting to point out that CIC is not interested in anything that does not resemble a marriage - legalized or otherwise.

So, my information is up to date and my understanding of the system is very realistic.

Not trying to talk you out of anything - just trying to point out a few realities that you may be missing.

[13-08-2009,16:13]
[***.20.116.15]
Sharon
To Sharon (in reply to: Proof of Common-Law relationship (Urgent))
This is more than a year we live together, our relationship is very genuine, that´s why I can not understand why should be all these process!
Regarding Skilled-Worker, I have a friend sit beside me that he has submitted his application 14 months ago, he has just got case-number and still in process, so it´s not true that it will be 1 year. Also I read and checked the CIC website if you go to timetable you see it´s more than a year for sure, while Common-Law case is just 6 months.
anyways, I appreciate your answers and your help. So, you believe he has to apply through skilled-worker! He is a Professor of University, holding a Prof. position from 10 years ago. He speak English well, and he is 38 years old so I think he can get it that way too. Can I be useful as Common-Law partner in his application?
Also can we apply both, he apply that category, I apply this one?

[13-08-2009,16:52]
[**.68.113.166]
Ana
(in reply to: Proof of Common-Law relationship (Urgent))
he likely got caught in the period when all files were on hold while they sorted out the in demand NOC codes.

if you already know all the answers... why are you asking? You are obviously not interested in any answer other than the ones you think you already have.

go read the CIC website. Everything is there. read the manuals while you are at it. your boyfriend (oops, you) can determine if he has the right NOC codes, he can check if his points are sufficient etc.

You can even find out if you can submit a dual application (the answer is no but why would you believe me)

[13-08-2009,17:42]
[***.20.116.15]
Sharon
(in reply to: Proof of Common-Law relationship (Urgent))

1- You cannot send a dual application.

2- It doesn´t take 6 months, inland applications as a common law partner may take more than 2 years to be processed and you have no right to appeal if his application is refused.

3- Skill worker. If his area of expertise matches any of the NOC codes (National Ocupation Code) he may or may not be elegible to apply for permanent residence as a skill worker.

4- Yes, he needs a police record from the RCMP when he applies and also a valid police record from every country he has been living in for more than 6 months.

5- I am not too sure if he is under a work permit and he keeps extending it. Anyway, eventually CIC won´t entend it anyomore and then he may get in trouble.

If you decide to sponsor him as a permanent resident as a common law, you are still have to provide pictures and massive proof that your relationship is genuine. The fact that "he" or "you" don´t think that is important well guess what?....IT DOES MATTER!!!!! a piece of paper with a lawyers stamp on it certifying your relationship means squat for CIC.

Otherwise you will find out in the hard way and remember there is no right to appeal the decision of an officer for inland applications.

Interesting enough, he is the one who should be filling forms. Your part goes as far as the sponsorship. The permanent residence application is his not yours.

Being an illegal alien I can´t imagine being a fun thing. Eventually they get caught, it is not matter of "if" is more about the "when".

You should start here:
www.cic.gc.ca

Cheers,

Bill

[13-08-2009,18:46]
[***.75.247.138]
Bill