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Subject: departure order
  Last year my boyfriend who was in Canada on refugee claim had to suddenly leave back to mexico becasue his mother was dying. He left before his case was heard before the judge. He left on volunteer bases and was given a "certificate of departure" on this document it has stated "departure order". He is now in the Mexican Army and want to come back for 2 week visit? what are the chance of him getting this visa to come to Canada? Or who could I talk to about what happened to his refugee claim, becasue it was still heard before the judge without his presents? Any advice would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks

T

[21-08-2009,10:22]
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Tara T
(in reply to: departure order)
what was the basis for his refugee claim? if it was safe enough for him to return to Mexico, visit with his dying Mom and then join the army - I guess it was not much of a claim. Therefore, I suspect it got tossed out or denied.

Failed refugee claimant wanting to visit Canada? Why...CIC will ask. To seek refugee status again (not) to see a girlfriend so he can stay in the country and apply as family class (not).

If you want to see this guy, you better get yourself a ticket to Mexico.

[21-08-2009,12:10]
[***.20.116.15]
Sharon
(in reply to: departure order)
Alternatively, he can come to the border, claim a refugee status. (Canada will not throw him out). Once in Canada, he can get married, apply under family sponsorship (Inland)and then abandon his refugee claim.

How about that?

[21-08-2009,13:11]
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Anonymous
(in reply to: departure order)
Thats reply was rather harsh sharon and to answer your question..his refugee claim was for protection reason. for him to leave it was a personal and difficult choice he had to make. He sacrificed his life for the chance see his mother before she died. He knew the chances of him coming back to Canada were very slim amnd the chances of him getting killed were reality but he felt he couldnt live with guilt of not saying good bye to his mother before she passed away with cancer. Anyhow, for joining the army he did it for protection, and for him to visit Canada is no more then just a visit and not for him to find some way to stay in canada and apply as familt class. But thankts for the reality check on how they will see the situation. OH FYI I do have my ticket to mexico.
[21-08-2009,13:13]
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Tara T
Dear anonymous (in reply to: departure order)
Thanks for that positive note, would something like that really work..lol... sounds like a long shot...well ahve a great day.

T

[21-08-2009,13:16]
[**.65.228.70]
Tara T
(in reply to: departure order)
some times questions don´t have pretty answers. CIC is heartless for the most part and extremely suspicious. The reason for his return really does not matter to CIC - no automatic approval for being a good son willing to risk his life to see Mom one last time. The sooner we come to grips with that reality the sooner we save ourselves a lot of false hope and time.

CIC will always consider a failed or abandoned refugee claim as a flagged passport. More often than not, a refugee claim is a back door attempt to gain entry to Canada. Most are unsuccessful and it takes the government years to get people out of the country. The only good thing is your boyfriend left on his own- and that would bode well for him in future. BUT, CIC will really not want to risk him trying the same thing again so I would not be hopeful for a visitors visa. I am glad to hear you have your ticket.

Should you decide to marry this guy and sponsor him...keep in the back of your mind that CIC will again question his motives. Make sure you collect your evidence of a genuine relationship accordingly so you are not faced with future difficulty.

good luck.

[21-08-2009,13:26]
[***.20.74.169]
Sharon
(in reply to: departure order)
you might want to read this

http://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/agency-agence/stca-etps-eng.html

[21-08-2009,14:52]
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Sharon
(in reply to: departure order)
Sharon

True, CIC is heartless most of time but don´t be CIC. Be heartFULL as your heartless replies cause heartACHES to others.

I have seen/come across too many cases of those, who were illegal in USA, then came to Canada with false ID, and then claimed refugee status. Soon, they got married to Cnd women, made them pregnant, applied for family sponsorship, abandoned their refugee claims...and successfully got it.

[21-08-2009,16:46]
[***.161.79.195]
Anonymous
(in reply to: departure order)
thanks shannon for the advice, sometime you just have to let go .. life is complicated enough ... if anything maybe I will go live in mexico...hey if I marry him and move to mexico for a couple of years would it amke it easier to sponsor him to canada...Moving to mexico is a possibility becasue I have employment oppurtunity there.
[21-08-2009,16:52]
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Tara T
(in reply to: departure order)
Tara

Hmmmmm...I thought you said his life is at great risk over there. What if you both get killed!!

[21-08-2009,16:55]
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Anonymous
(in reply to: departure order)
yes he is in danger and I would be put my life in danger as well, this is why I say life is already complicated enough and need to just let go. In this case he is in the army in the south and my job oppurtunity is in North mexico monterrey. This is possibily but there is serious factor that come into play ... I dont know if the risks are worth it but the things people would do for love... I guess.
[21-08-2009,17:23]
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Tara T
(in reply to: departure order)
I am heartful. I am also honest. There is no compassion in giving false hope. Sometimes reality bites and I am not a person that tells you something just because you want to hear it.

the posts in this thread would strongly suggest that a refugee application was a very weak one at best (perhaps even fraudulent) given how eagerly the applicant returned home, continues to live there and is willing to subject a loved one to danger.

So, who has it wrong?

[21-08-2009,17:25]
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Sharon