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I am near retirement age and I have acquired my Canadian citizenship since 1988. Is it feasible/possible to retain my permanent resident status in Canada when renouncing my Canadian citizenship (for the purpose of reclaiming my citizenship from the original country which does not recognize dual-citizenship) ?
[29-12-2009,17:41]
[***.32.208.234]
Towkay |
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(in reply to: convert citizenship to landed status, possble ?)
No, you cannot.
[29-12-2009,18:15]
[***.115.153.178]
DocD |
Renouncing citizenship within Canada ? (in reply to: convert citizenship to landed status, possble ?)
According to the folllowing instrctions, one can apply renouncement of Canadian citizenship while living in Canada. How does the approval of renouncement application change resident status of the applicant (since he/she is still residing in Canada) ?
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Application to renounce Canadian citizenship under subsection 9(1)
Purpose:
This application is for an adult Canadian citizen who wishes to renounce his or her Canadian citizenship. To renounce your Canadian citizenship you must prove you are a Canadian citizen. You must also prove that you are, or will become, a citizen of a country other than Canada, if this application to renounce is approved.
Where:
If you are living outside Canada, submit your application to a Canadian Embassy, High Commission or Consulate for processing.
If you are living in Canada, mail your application to the Case Processing Centre in Sydney, Nova Scotia.
source: http://www.cic.gc.ca/English/information/applications/renounce.asp
[29-12-2009,22:17]
[**.108.197.52]
Towkay |
(in reply to: convert citizenship to landed status, possble ?)
This is a good question: if you abandon your citinahip, do yo go back to your PR status?. I wish to know.
This is important for those forced to give up their citizenship because their governments do not recognize dual citizenship.
[30-12-2009,02:00]
[**.80.235.13]
Anonymous |
(in reply to: convert citizenship to landed status, possble ?)
No, it´s not possible. If you renounced your Canadian citizenship, you are no longer a Canadian citizen or P.R. - the logic is once you attained your Canadian Citzienship, your P. R. status is redundant - void so a loss of citizenship = loss of residency status, including PR status.
[30-12-2009,19:21]
[**.210.15.78]
Anonymous |
citizenship conversion (in reply to: convert citizenship to landed status, possble ?)
I don´t quite buy your logic that "once you attained your Canadian Citzienship, your P. R. status is redundant - void so a loss of citizenship = loss of residency status, including PR status."
"P. R. status" may be included in "Canadian Citzienship", but they are obviously 2 different status. (I had "P.R. status" without having "Canadian Citzienship" when I landed here.)
Logic and laws may not coincide all the time, I just to hear the legal opinion about whether I can revert to the status prior to obtaining my citizenship. (or convert my citizehship to landed status).
[30-12-2009,20:45]
[**.108.197.52]
Towkay |
chtizenship conversion (in reply to: convert citizenship to landed status, possble ?)
Another thing, since I can apply for citizenship renouncement while living in Canada. If it is true that loss of citizenship implies loss of P.R. status, does this mean that I will be deported as soon as my renouncement is approved ? (Logical ?)
[30-12-2009,20:49]
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Towkay |
(in reply to: convert citizenship to landed status, possble ?)
"Logic" can be alo explained that way: PR Card is only required when you go out or come back to Canada by commercial carrier. For long you have not renewed it, but in terms of residency obligations you are fit.
Why don´t you give a try and send an application for renewing your PR card and then wait for answer? If you are not allowed to do so, then you may loose your PR status after giving up the citizenship. Yeh its true, to become PR there are already conditions set...so may be you go back on queue..apply on the basis of Canadian experience...
Don´t trust me...its just one of the speculations..among several.
But one thing strikes my mind, you worked there git citizenshio and retired now. Why do you want to leave the country? Probably you get retirement pension and free medicals, which are necessary after retirement age. Is a developed country like Canada unfit for retired people? Its my simple query being myself as possible immigrant, may be your answer help me to plan as such!
[31-12-2009,04:07]
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Oh |
Retirement in Canada (in reply to: convert citizenship to landed status, possble ?)
Thank you for your reply, Mr. Oh.
Actually, Canada is one of the (if not the best) best place for retirement . (Especailly in Victoria, where I live, which has the mildest weather in Canada).
My plan is not to leave Canada but to spend equal time in both Canada and my original country (Summer here winter there). To reclaim my citizenship from my orignal country (therefore allow my convenient residency) I may be forced to renounce my Canadian citizenship therefore my question.
Your suggestion about "renewing PR card" does not work for me since I don´t have a PR card.
In worst case scenario, they probably will remove both my citizenship and PR when I apply for renouncement, but they will allow me to re-apply PR from within Canada (unless they can deport me), I guess.
[31-12-2009,12:33]
[***.32.208.234]
Towkay |
(in reply to: convert citizenship to landed status, possble ?)
According to CIC operational manual on Citizenship Policy (CP9, section 10.5):
Citizens who successfully renounce citizenship have no status in Canada.
A person who renounces Canadian citizenship is subject to the IRPA, for example, regarding entering and remaining in Canada.
If a person renounces citizenship and decides to return to Canada to live, he ir she must apply to become a permanent resident and live in Canada for one year immediately before applying to resume citizenship.
If a person renounces citizenship and decides to return to Canada temporarily (i.e. to work or to visit)he or she must apply to become a temporary resident.
[31-12-2009,15:20]
[**.210.15.78]
Anonymous |
(in reply to: convert citizenship to landed status, possble ?)
I don´t want to "resume" my citizenship, but just want to apply for landed status after renouncing citizenship (so that to protect my pensions and health benefit. IS THIS POSSIBLE ?
[25-10-2011,22:16]
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Towkay |
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