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When you are in Canada in a loving genuine relationship never take your time submitting an in Canada Spousal application.

If you get a letter calling you to a Pre Removal Risk Assessment CIC will not consider your in Canada Spousal Application. Sometimes CBSA Officers will take their time removing you so it can be assessed and other CBSA Officers will not care about your personal situation.

Beijing took 19 months to approve an ARC based on an overseas Spousal!

The Do It Yourself applicant took too long to file an in Canada Spousal until they had already been called to a PRRA even though they had already been married for a year and nine months with one child and another one due any day.

They had a second child, then submitted an in Canada Spousal and was one week from Vegreville CPC assessing their In Canada application according to the timeline when they got the negative PRRA results.http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#sponsorship

CBSA said go home, get on the plane with or without your kids.

This is when the client decided they needed advice and retained us.

When you pay for advice, be prepared to take that advice.

Their situation was an ideal media story and CBSA, CIC and the IRB hate attention to their sometimes cruel ways. Compassion is common sense and something the average Canadian would grant.

This couple believed that CBSA would grant a deferral of removal being only about a week from being assessed regarding their in canada spousal application.

We requested a deferral of removal but CBSA said NO!

I wanted to run to the media with this heart wrenching story but the client said NO!

Now it would have been common sense to grant a deferral of removal since they had two Canadian children and had been married for about three years and the husband was going to sponsor back his wife anyways. But the answer was go to China.

Common sense is something that is not always present at various CBSA Offices.

Beijing took 19 months to approve an ARC based on an overseas Spousal!

Consider the expense the husband went through flying back and forth while maintaining his employment.

Consider the poor quality of air these children had to put up with in their formative years.

The problem is now that you have gotten your Visa who cares about what you were put through. No one, but me and them.

There is a time for everything and the time for this family to complain was before they were removed. Time is very important so when you have a valid issue, fight because it could cost you your marriage.

Never wait and wait to submit a in Canada spousal until it is too late.

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[17-01-2010,08:40]
[**.55.219.35]
Roy
Do not immigrate to Canada!! (in reply to: Spousal - Authorization to Return)
Hello Guys: Think twice before you move to this double standard country. You will always be treated like an immigrant by the canadian born, no matter how fair they pretend to be. If you have a good job in your country stay and put your taxes towards your country. We are here to pay the commodities of many born canadians.
[17-01-2010,12:33]
[***.6.254.144]
Jannaquis
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Jamaquis

So what great country did you come from and if your here why have you not taken your own advice and left?

Every so often these postings appear from people who have not been as successful as they expected so they what to blame others.

Things here could be better but come on sharing is a bad thing. Like Canadian´s born peoples taxes never go to helping new comers.

Funny!

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[18-01-2010,08:10]
[**.55.219.241]
Roy
(in reply to: Spousal - Authorization to Return)

Roy says:
"Common sense is something that is not always present at various CBSA Offices".
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LOL
THERE IS NO SUCH A THING AS "COMMON SENSE"

Common sense is the least common of all senses.

Isn´t it a common sense to apply as a PR from abroad and immigrate legally to Canada as well?

Isn´t it common sense to leave Canada at the end of your visit as authorized?

Isn´t it common sense to fill your application when you are supposed to?

You see, that is common sense to me, maybe not to you.

Someone is in the country, they over stayed, then they start a family, they run out of status and time, because eventhough under that category someone may apply for a PR within Canada and when the crap hits the fun..... they run to the media to tell to the whole country CBSA´s "cruel ways"
Whatta hell????????????????????

I am not sure if you realize that this kind of situations all what accomplishes at the end is a change in the law to make it less flexible.


Roy says:
"Beijing took 19 months to approve an ARC based on an overseas Spousal!"
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Do you have any idea how many exclusions orders where issued to Chinese people in 2009 alone?


Roy says:

"Consider the expense the husband went through flying back and forth while maintaining his employment".
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That was his choice in the first place. How many months did he have in the first place to send his paper work before it was too late?


Roy says:

"Consider the poor quality of air these children had to put up with in their formative years".
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Unfortunately is not their fault, but if someone needs to be blamed is their parents.


Roy says:
"Never wait and wait to submit a in Canada spousal until it is too late".
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Exactly!!!!!

See, some people overstay their permit, some people break the provicial and federal law.
And CBSA officers are the bad guys here????????

Federal agencies don´t follow "common sense" they follow procedures, it doesn´t matter how "common sense" this is, if you don´t have a solid piece of evidence backing up your statement, YOU ARE DONE.





[18-01-2010,11:19]
[***.115.153.178]
DocD
to DocD (in reply to: Spousal - Authorization to Return)
I always believed CBSA officers are just doing their job. But sometimes, they are just going too far.

Asking my husband to get a travel document to go back to China? = Just doing their job

Asking my husband to get an emergency document which means he can NEVER EVER come back to Canada? He didn´t tell my husband that it could be like that, my husband found out himself = Going too far

Telling my husband to not worry about our spousal sponsorship cases BECAUSE it may not going through anyway? = Going too far

After all this, what do you think?


[19-01-2010,01:48]
[**.196.160.118]
Anonymous
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By the way, I only mean some of them

[19-01-2010,01:52]
[**.196.160.118]
Anonymous
ARC Pointers (in reply to: Spousal - Authorization to Return)
My Husband just recieved the letter stating that he has to write a letter and pay the fee for permission to come back home to Canada from Jamaica, we have contacted our immigration consult and she has stated that she has to write the letter? I would naturally assume that he would have to write it in his own words correct? he has a removal order letter from last year it will be a year on mar 13th/10 that he has been gone...we are still going to do the letter of course, does anyone have any pointers of what the letter is supposed to include??? and does anyone know how long it might take till we know if appoved??? or where i can find the information?

Thanks

[18-02-2010,16:58]
[**.114.255.99]
Mary
Roy PLEASE HELP US (in reply to: Spousal - Authorization to Return)
As real as it gets..please help us (in reply to: NEED A MIRACLE - PLEASE HELP US)
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My husband was born in Angola Africa in 1975 but registered as portuguese citizen in Madria,portugal.came with parents to usa at age 2 & grew up in boston,usa. parents would go to portugal every few years and bring my husband his brothers and sister with them.i was born in Maine,Usa in 1982 to my mother who is usa citizen, my father who is canadian. I am Canadian citizen as well as usa. Now my father is responsible for the beginning of this situation... This is the whole situation starting way back in Oct-Nov 2002.....My husband and i were residing in boston usa, i came to see my father in maine for my 18th birthday, my husband stayed in boston.i come to find out that there were two dominican men also living with my dad and his wife. my dad and his wife both had a very bad crack habbit. when i found out what he was involved in i tried to leave but the two guys showed me a gun and demand that i sit and wait. thats when i got scared and asked to call my husband... they let me call him. now this is how my husband got involved in this whole thing. so i called him in boston and told him that i could not leave my dads house. because of a problem my dad is having. so my husband being my hero drove to maine to get me. when he got to my dads house. he got surprised to hear what the problem was. my dad had these two guys living with him and his wife they where selling crack from the home. and that my dad had gain a crack habit once again. and he owed $2500.00 to these guys and they wanted thier money so they treaten to take me until the money was paid. my husband didnt like that at all... thats when he agreed to help get the money so i could go back home with my husband. all my husbands involven was to make sure that all the money that my dad made from selling to freinds, my husband made sure he pay on his bill with the two guys. and my husband still borrowed money from his parents to help pay on my dads habit bill. my husband and i stayed in maine for 4 days until all the money was there. the last night when we had all the money and we were ready to leave to go home to boston. thats when the house got raided by the police. we got arrested. my husband took my case so i could go home. they charaged him with: conspiracy with intent to distribute 5grams or more of cocaine base; no drugs found on my husbands person. my husband helped the government put 4 very bad guys away.. he has all the court files on his case letters from d.e.a. stating his big help in the case ,,,. so he got 24 months in jail but with ins to deported him from the states because of being a fed crime . so after all his jail time he got deported to portugal. he stayed in portugal for 6 months then he came to be me and my son. i came to canada while he was in portugal i got my proof of citeiznship here and my son. with my husband coming into canada not knowing if they will let him stay or even visit ... so he tried..... and when he got to the airport in canada they were having a hard time finding anything on him . he told the people at the port of entry the whole truth about him self. they were amazed at how fully truthful my husband was being they cut him a break and sold him a 30 day trp visa . for the sum of 300.00$. and the port officer told him what to do if he wishes to stay longer in canada . the officer informed him to contact jurmain law office. so we did mr. jurmain inform us of how my husband came to canada to soon . and that we still can file a trp app. and that will cost about 1400.00$ so we did that and we been together in canada for last two years i gave birth to our second child last april. the frist interview they said because of my husband crimes i had to wait until 2012 to apply. so they refused my trp app. thats when mr jurmain informed him to the appeal the decision.so i got another lawyer in toronto to file a fed appael. meanwhlie mr jurmain kept post poning the admissable hearing unitl the decision came back from ferderal courts, they had the hearing last couple of weeks now we are just waiting for the judges decision mr jurmain informs me that should be another few weeks maybe. we just went to the admisadable hearing on feb 3 2010. they found him not admisadable to canada because of two usa charges the second one is drinking and driving which they say its not as bad as the frist one o.u.i. charge was in 2002. so the judge walked over to him with a deportion paper . he signed . they told him to go next door to speak to someone about the prra app. we sat there for 20 mins when some lady behind the glass told him that they will contact him by mail . so we came home and rigth away he contacted mr jurmain .he informed us that was how they do it . so we thougth everything was okay. well the next day i was down stairs washing cloths and my hus band was taking the trash out when he was grabed froceily out the door they where saying he was trying to run but he had no shoe on...he was taking out the trash. they locked him up for 5 days then released him on $1000.00 bond and gave him rules like check in 1 every 2 weeks. now i ask you what can be done . as you see we truely need help asap please......what can we do to keep him from leaving canada?????

[19-02-2010,11:38]
[***.206.61.79]
Marques Family
I am scared (in reply to: Spousal - Authorization to Return)
I am so scared b/c my common-law husband is leaving in ten day due to an exclusion order. He overstayed and we are so, so angry at ourselves for not looking into things more closely. There were too many ambiguous and conflicting requirements ie: how do you fulfill the 1 yr continuous living requirement for common law if one must return to their country. Plus there was no stamp on his passport to re-new the visitor visa (he´s American) and he was doing charitable work for a religious organization which states he didn´t need a visa on one page of the CIC site and the opposite info on another page! We cannot afford a lawyer and feel they just take money to do the paperwork we already have done.

Have I applied correctly now? Can someone tell me?

I sent the PR application to Mississauga
I sent the ARC letter and form to Mississauga along with my PR application
all documents are in except FBI check which is on its way

Should I pay for the ARC and send the receipt or wait?
Does my husband have to go to the Seattle (nearest to him) consulate to apply for ARC or is the application sent to Mississauga enough?

What are compelling reasons for an ARC?
- I need surgery soon and need care afterwards
-we are 1/2 finished building a home on our property when he was ordered to leave (he was coordinating the whole thing)
-my family requires support from us as a couple (my nephew has a head injury from a tragic car crash recently) and relies on us tremendously
- I suffer from depression and anxiety (doctor´s note)

Does CIC grant ARC for temporary reasons or do they prefer to wait for the PR process to be complete?

Thanks ...Scared to let my husband go...afraid we will not be together for a long time :(



[10-11-2010,23:16]
[**.66.86.52]
PL
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Please inform how to get ARC for voluntary deparature from Canda with Spouse and Candian borned Citizen Kids.
[26-05-2011,12:09]
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