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Subject: Police CEC Application
  When you embellish the truth the long arm of the law can grab you.

I have heard of a CEC applicant who claimed he was working for Pizza Pizza as a programmer being arrested because they claim he is not a programmer but making Pizza and deliverying same.

When you sign the forms your signing your privacy awaay including deductions/earnings info to Revenue Canada. Some small town Sydney person would jump at enforcing the law Gate Keeper attitude with such a wide difference in income.

All of CBSA staff believe they are the Sheriff in town, or should I say Home Land Security staff. It appears that the attitude is becoming efectious

Roy
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[10-02-2010,07:25]
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Roy
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You always give people lessons in honesty and ethics.

I hope you are as honest and ethical as you sound to be!

[10-02-2010,16:56]
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Anonymous
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"All of CBSA staff believe they are the Sheriff in town, or should I say Home Land Security staff. It appears that the attitude is becoming efectious"

What is that supposed to mean?

CBSA staff as well as DHS, is a law enforcement federal agency, since when is a charity organization?

I always find people beating on CBSA or CIC for doing their job.
Things are not done on personal feelings or believes, there is a OP manual that is followed, is it not?
And it is not... well.. there is a court of law in our system that any citizen has access to.

If you are not prepared to stand behind CBSA feel free to stand in front of them.



[10-02-2010,17:19]
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DocD
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TY DocD for proving my point. CBSA Edmonton Airport.

Don.t you think you should wear a scarf to cover up your RED NECK!

This guy lied on an application and could easily have been refused. Sending him to court, with all the time and expense involved is a cost that the Canadian tax payer need not foot.

If many are complaining about CBSA & CIC maybe a good percetage have a valid complaint.

CIC takes two + years to approve a Canadian who meets the LICO and wants to sponsor his parents. I know you call that prompt processing!!!! IRPA 3 (1) (f)r CBSA buddy is demanding she bring all of her documents back to them so they can try to get the same travel document and if they can`t get it she will be out the cost of her tickets.

Stand in front of the troops RED NECK I suppose you support the former colonel from Trenton who is currently charged with two rapes and two muders!

If an applicant is wrong, a soldier is wrong or any CIC Or CBSA Officer is wrong, THEY ARE WRONG AND SHOULD BE DEALT WITH HUMAINLY.

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[11-02-2010,06:58]
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Roy
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Alright, I was working the whole day yesterday and I couldn´t read this until this morning.

Let see....
RED NECK? LOL you just made my day. Am I supposed to be offended?

"This guy lied on an application and could easily have been refused. Sending him to court, with all the time and expense involved is a cost that the Canadian tax payer need not foot".

How is that CBSA´s fault? That is the way how our system works. Do you think the agency has the time a resourses to go to court for things like this? CBSA does it because they have to. It is what it is princess.

"If many are complaining about CBSA & CIC maybe a good percetage have a valid complaint."

Almost 300,000 thousand immigrants and millions of visitors come to Canada every year. What percentage complains?

1- The ones who break the law
2- Deportees
3- Illegal aliens
4- Processing times, (I agree that has to change but again that is outside of CBSA jurisdiction)

So your statement is not valid. Check your numbers and %and try again.

"CIC takes two + years to approve a Canadian who meets the LICO and wants to sponsor his parents. I know you call that prompt processing!!!! IRPA 3 (1) (f)r CBSA buddy is demanding she bring all of her documents back to them so they can try to get the same travel document and if they can`t get it she will be out the cost of her tickets".

CBSA has nothing to do with visas and processing times.

"Stand in front of the troops RED NECK I suppose you support the former colonel from Trenton who is currently charged with two rapes and two muders!"

I am not aware of any troops called "RED NECK" LOL but in any case, I stand behind them as well, they are also brave federal officers.

How the Colonel Trenton got invloved in this conversation?
I have nothing to support there.

"If an applicant is wrong, a soldier is wrong or any CIC Or CBSA Officer is wrong, THEY ARE WRONG AND SHOULD BE DEALT WITH HUMAINLY".

Sure, no argue there. If they are wrong they are wrong.
There are bad officers, there are good officers whether is a CBSA or DHS officer. What´s the point?






[12-02-2010,12:44]
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DocD
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Princess I guess I asked for that, LOL

DocD I see little if any difference between CBSA and CIC.

WOW only 33 months for CIC CPC Mississauga to decide if a Canadian who meets the LICO is a suitable sponsor. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#sponsorship

33 months prompt processing 3 (1) (f) wow have they ever speed that up. Then add even up to 50 months at some Visa Posts for the parents to be approved.

DocD I bet you have never heard "Take the Canadian kids with you or leave them behind my job is to remove you MOM"!

Sending a Canadian child to China for example who will never be allowed to go to school because they were never registered at birth in China. China does not allow dual citizenship so to go to school the parents would have to renounce the kids Canadian citizenship is a humane and compassionate thing that CBSA does on a daily basis.

Asking a Un-Wed Mother to provide PROOF who the biological father of her child is and PROOF of the status of the biological father is not a violation of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms?

In this particular situation I wrote about which is not my client CBSA Investigators were the ones that investigated the guy and claimed he was working delivering Pizza´s. They signed the affidavits.

CBSA investigated one of my clients for SEVEN years before deciding to take him to a vacation hearing to take away his refugee status. Only when I sent an e-mail saying Land him or kick him out and I cc the fax to the Toronto Sun did they decide to take him to a vacation hearing.

At the hearing the IRB Member found that the Ministers Counsel misrepresented the evidence and that there was no evidence that any misrepresentation occurred on behalf of my client.

So how much does it cost to take someone to court and then if sentenced to incarceration how much is that cost. Why should a Canadian foot that bill. Refuse him and remove him I agree with you.

What I was trying to get across to readers was to always tell the truth because you could end up in Jail for a lie about your employment.

I´m in Ontario and I live east of Toronto and I see all these dead soldiers being escorted to the cornorers office in Toronto all the time.

I support the troops but not the mission.

R U Canadian? Love it or leave it attitude or stand in front of the troops you deserved the REDNECK comment.

I´m for Peace not against war.

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[12-02-2010,18:01]
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Roy
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"DocD I see little if any difference between CBSA and CIC".

Well, there is...

"WOW only 33 months for CIC CPC Mississauga to decide if a Canadian who meets the LICO is a suitable sponsor. http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/canada/process-in.asp#sponsorship"

"33 months prompt processing 3 (1) (f) wow have they ever speed that up. Then add even up to 50 months at some Visa Posts for the parents to be approved."
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I agree that has to change, BUT have you ever thought if our health care system (as an example )is actually prepared for another extra 200,000 new comers?
Or the schools?
Or the hospitals?
Or the work/labour force?

CIC is just the result of some other things that have to improve in our current system. We are still under a British system that is as old as Moses.

"DocD I bet you have never heard "Take the Canadian kids with you or leave them behind my job is to remove you MOM"!

"Sending a Canadian child to China for example who will never be allowed to go to school because they were never registered at birth in China. China does not allow dual citizenship so to go to school the parents would have to renounce the kids Canadian citizenship is a humane and compassionate thing that CBSA does on a daily basis".

How about instead of blaiming CBSA for this action, let´s see why CIC is issuing visas to their parents to come to Canada in the first place?

THAT IS BEYOND ME. But in CIC´s defense, they just follow a federal protocol. So the root cause of the problem comes from above. CBSA is at the end of the chain and of course.... the crap rolls down hill and when things like these happen is easier to say "The heartless CBSA officers".

"R U Canadian? Love it or leave it attitude or stand in front of the troops you deserved the REDNECK comment".
"Im for Peace not against war".

Yup, I am as Canadian as it gets. I never said love it or leave it though, that was your interpretation not mine.
And I am for Peace as well. CBSA is probably one of most efficient agencies in our federal government. The customs portion of it, it is the trickiest and most stressfull part of it and on top of that, most officers have only 2 minutes to figure someone elses life and make a decision that may change someones life or the future of a country forever.

Is that a "REDNECK" train of thought? When you open someone else´s Passport, scan it and ask three simple questions, you will find out that as heartless you may think the agency is, it provides one of the best customer services that any other Federal Agency in this country.








[12-02-2010,19:12]
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DocD
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Off to Vancouver. This is going to be a week from hell.

[12-02-2010,19:18]
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DocD
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TY for just continuing to prove my points with your comments.

Roy
www.cvimmigration.com

[14-02-2010,07:34]
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Roy
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Your welcome! Any time!

[16-02-2010,12:44]
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DocD
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