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To All
The recent changes to IRPR regulation 4 which is designed to make it easier for the Ministers Counsel to win Spousal Appeals will make it more difficult for arranged marriages to be approved.
The Key word in (a) is (or)it used to be (and)!
4. (1) For the purposes of these Regulations, a foreign national shall not be considered a spouse, a common-law partner or a conjugal partner of a person if the marriage, common-law partnership or conjugal partnership
(a) was entered into primarily for the purpose of acquiring any status or privilege under the Act; or
(b) is not genuine.
The issue is clear, when a couple enters into an (arranged marriage) it is obvious that the marriage would be hard to prove that it was NOT entered into PRIMARILY to gain an advantage under the Act which is status.
pri·ma·ri·ly (definition) in the first instance; at first; originally
There is no passion or love, in the first instance or originally it is a business deal between parents and families. To fix something they break something else.
Prior to the changes it was a two prong test. In theory somone who paid $35,000.00 for a bride to marry him and CIC found out the Spousal Application would be refused. If the relationship turned genuine prior to the marriage they would win at the Immigration Appeal Division because the Minister Counsel would have to prove both categories. Fair or UnFair?
Now one PR or Canadian family who knows another family in the mountains of Pakistan arrange a marriage. The wedding takes place by Proxy (Telephone) and the couple do not consummate their marriage prior to the Visa Officer reviewing their SPousal Application. REFUSED!!!!!!
These changes are tying the hands of Visa Officers.
Do arranged marriages work, of course!
Roy
cvimmigration.com
[07-04-2010,07:22]
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Roy |
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(in reply to: Arranged Marriages Major Trouble)
it´s really too bad that they don´t invite people like you into a room to shoot new regulations full of holes before adopting them. So often fixing one problem creates another. I see it all the time and it drives me nuts.
but, they really need to do something to reduce this marriage fraud stuff and the challenges that come with accomodating cultural traditions. We are seeing far too many abandoned spouses, or divorces shortly after landing.
I still favour a conditional PR for a 1 year period after landing in a spousal application with an interview to ensure the marriage is bonafide. More like what they are doing in the US.
[07-04-2010,08:38]
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Sharon |
Arranged Marriages Major Trouble (in reply to: Arranged Marriages Major Trouble)
Sharon im with you there, i´ve seen so many people that fall in love with a person that promise them the moon and stars just to get their pr after that they take off and suprise surpise DIVORCE!!! they should do like 2 years conditional PR .
[07-04-2010,12:22]
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kika |
(in reply to: Arranged Marriages Major Trouble)
This one year PR status hold out is not a solution it is no difference than the three year or ten year undertaking. If a bad partner can hold something over your head they will.
We need to know that he/she is the person for us and that CIC will treat us fairly no matter what country we come from.
What about a religion that does not allow the wife to move into her husbands house because of certain factors then they have never consummated the marriage.
Is that a genuine marriage?
Roy
cvimmigration.com
[07-04-2010,14:17]
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Roy |
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