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Hello. I´m an American, staying in Canada with my fiance´ who is a Canadian citizen. My visitors visa was denied because they said there´s not enough proof that I´ll go back to the US after the 6 months is up. I made it clear in the application that we are getting married within this 6 months, and after that I will apply for landed immigrant status. However, I did not put on my application that I have 2 children and family in the US (didn´t think I had to because I wasn´t applying for a visa for them at that time). When I talked to someone at Immigration they said that I could re-apply if I have new info, and that I should put as much info about my children as possible. Has anyone had this issue? Also, would it be better to apply within Canada or apply from the US? I´ve never heard of anyone getting denied a visitors visa.
[06-07-2010,14:11]
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Luna |
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(in reply to: Visitors Visa Denied)
people get denied every day.
Your circumstances would scream that you have no intention of returning to the US at the end of your 6 months. You can promise all you like and they are not going to believe you.
What you have been told by immigration is true - but you have now declared your intentions and that will show up on your files. Your ties to the US must be iron clad. Including a job.
beyond that - plan for an outland sponsorship application once you are married.
[06-07-2010,14:43]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Visitors Visa Denied)
How can I still have a job in the states if I´ve been here for 6 months? I was laid off and that´s when I decided to come here, stay with my fiance´ to make certain that we are compatible before we get married. My ties to the states are my children and my family. Just so I understand correctly, you´re saying I should get married, leave Canada and apply from the states? Will that guarantee that they will accept my visa? I don´t want to be married to someone I can´t live with, and have a life with. And i don´t want to be separated from my husband for a year while Immigration makes up their mind. Some of the posts I´m reading have people waiting 7 years!!!! How can that be???
[06-07-2010,15:00]
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Luna |
(in reply to: Visitors Visa Denied)
Luna, how you see the world and how Immigration Officers see the world are 2 different things.
You came to Canada under false pretenses - you came as a visitor? no... you came as someone intending to set up residency with a Canadian. 6 months or 6 years, nobody could predict and had border officers known your true intent, they would likely not have issued your original visa or let you across the border.
You say you have ties to your children and family. CIC will say you were prepared to ´abandon´ them for 6 months to test drive your relationship with your fiance. What is to prevent you from abandoning them entirely. You would not be the first.
Another visa to continue the domestic cohabitation is wishful thinking. CIC will not hold out hope for you to voluntarily leave and once you are married, you are likely going to want to apply for inland sponsorship - CIC hates inland sponsorship.
What I would encourage you to do... have fiance come to the US... get married... he goes back to Canada and begins and Outland sponsorship application. Are you bringing the kids with you? The children will be required to undergo medical exams regardless of your answer. The father of the children will also have to give permission should you intend to take them to Canada with you.
Inland sponsorships take a year - sometimes more. There is no appeal. Outland take less than a year if you have adequately prepared your application.
Do not count on a visitors visa being issued again under your current circumstances and plan accordingly.
[06-07-2010,15:50]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Visitors Visa Denied)
forgot to mention one thing - should you think an inland application is the only option - because you don´t want to be away from your sweetie - make it very clear in your mind that you are stuck in Canada, not working for at least 6-8 months and you are not able to leave Canada for any reason until your sponsorship is complete. Even if it is to see your kids. That is how much CIC hates inland applications. CIC really dislikes people assuming that the answer to their application is yes and move to Canada on that presumption so the minute an applicant leaves the country, they are asked to finish their wait where they should have been waiting in the first place - in their home country.
[06-07-2010,16:30]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Visitors Visa Denied)
Wow Sharon. First of all...I DID NOT ABANDON MY CHILDREN!!!! Their father and I have a wonderful relationship and he brings them here to see me every weekend, not to mention speaking to them every night before bedtime. Who the hell are YOU to assume I´ve abandoned my kids? Did I mention that I am only 1/2 hour away from the US border???? Apparently Sharon, you woke up on the wrong side of the bed, or assume that everyone out there is like YOU. Now, with that being said, I spoke to an Immigration laywer yesterday and got all of my options. I was simply on this website to get some information from someone who possibly went through the same thing, not to have some cranky, uptight woman tell me that I´ve abaondoned my kids. HOW DARE YOU!!!!!!
[07-07-2010,08:19]
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Luna |
(in reply to: Visitors Visa Denied)
read my comment again- I suggested CIC will look at the past 6 months and say you were prepared to leave your children in the care of others to live full time with a guy in another country. is that true or not? It is not my opinion that counts here and what side I got out of bed does not change the facts.
You might be 30 minutes from the border but you cannot cross it at will and obviously have not done so for quite some time. What would the situation be if you did not have someone willing to shuttle your children back and forth to see you? CIC will ask that question - guaranteed.
So, the notion that your ties to your family in the US is enough for CIC to grant you a visitors visa does not hold a lot of water.
I am certain the advice from the lawyer is not much different than you got here.
[08-07-2010,21:45]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Visitors Visa Denied)
Sharon, you can go straight to hell for all I care. Honestly, you are a bitter, miserable woman. I did not leave my children in the care of others for 6 months. It´s only been since April that I haven´t been to the states, when I sent my application in.... I saw them three times a week, plus every single weekend up until April. Don´t you DARE say that I abandoned my kids... What kind of person ARE you???? Who the hell do you think you are to assume that I left my kids in the care of others for that long????? And FYI.... The lawyer gave me a completely different story than YOU.... For free! Imagine that! I don´t need YOUR opinion or so called "advice" anymore. Thank you anyway.
[09-07-2010,09:07]
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Luna |
(in reply to: Visitors Visa Denied)
climb down out of your fu%*$%^ tree and read my comment again - ´CIC will look´. I really don´t give a rats ass what sort of parent you are. You came here and asked an immigration question. I gave you an immigration answer.
So, I am curious - what did your lawyer tell you to do? Did he explain that visas are denied all the time?
[09-07-2010,14:04]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Visitors Visa Denied)
hang on a minute -
You say that you are American - American citizens do not require visas to enter Canada.
If you are American through immigration and need a visa to enter Canada, they are generally 1 shot in and out opportunities. Did you have a multi enter visa? You would not have been going back and forth to the US every weekend unless you did.
Your story has multiple layers that do not make sense and you have a bad habit of only filling in the blanks with information after you don´t like the answer you are getting.
If you provided information to the lawyer in the same way you did here, there is no guarantee you got the right advice.
[09-07-2010,16:54]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Visitors Visa Denied)
You sure do have a lot of time on your hands, don´t you, Sharon. I could give you my entire life story if you´d like. I am aware that I do not need a visa...but if I plan to stay for more than 6 months, I do. See where I´m going with this? My first 6 months, I didn´t need a visa. I crossed the border three or more times a week, generally with no hassle. But, as I´m sure you´re aware because, afterall, you are all knowing in this department, or so you think.... If you wish to extend your stay, you need to file for an extension. You should know this, shouldn´t you? And don´t you worry, my lawyer knows all of my big dirty secrets that you assume I have that I´m hiding from Immigration.
I´ve said this before. I do not want your opinion or your "advice".I did not come on this site to be an old hags punching bag because she ran out of Bon Bon´s. This conversation is over.
Anyone else who would like to add something positive, please feel free.
[10-07-2010,01:53]
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Luna |
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