Not happy with my lawyer.

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Subject: Not happy with my lawyer.
  I am not happy with the service of my immigration attorney.
(1) They are not replying my emails in timely manner.
(2) They are taking unreasonably longer time to access my documents
(3) The way things are going my application will miss the deadline
I want to make complaints. What should I do? Whom should I contact?

[01-10-2010,08:12]
[***.98.227.18]
William
(in reply to: Not happy with my lawyer.)
buyer beware. Did you get references before you signed an agreement? Are you being reasonable about what you think is ´timely´. 2)WHO is accessing your documents - CIC or the Lawyer?- If it is CIC, the lawyer has zero influence or control over how long that takes.
3)what sort of deadline are you missing?

the only place you can complain is the law society and assume after that you will get no cooperation from you lawyer at all.

I would be interested to hear their side of the story.

[01-10-2010,10:46]
[**.154.245.217]
Sharon
(in reply to: Not happy with my lawyer.)
William

All advisors here this too.

Should your Lawyer stop assisting all of their other clients because your case is more inportant then all their other clients?

What application, what deadline? Are you referring to a PRRA application. 15 days forms & 15 days submissions.

If so did they tell you that the chance of a successful PRRA application is around 1%?

You send e-mail(s) and the key is plural. How many and how often.

If you want to change counsels do so.

Do not expect a detailed response from them because from the posting here there is so little detailed information that Sharon was 100% correct.

All Lawyers and Certified advisors have errors and omission Insurance but proving your point with the lack of information you have will be so difficult.

Roy
cvimmigration.com

[02-10-2010,10:23]
[**.94.97.132]
Roy
(in reply to: Not happy with my lawyer.)
Sharon

Thanks for your reply.
(1)Yes. I received references before signing the agreement.
(2)I think I am reasonable enough to use “timely”.
They are not timely at least in my standard. They are
taking weeks to response.
(3)The Lawyer is assessing. That is why I am not happy with
Lawyer. If it is CIC I would be bitching and whining
and fussing CIC.


Thanks for the information as where to make the complaint. I am hardly getting any cooperation that I have expected from my lawyer, as it is, so not much worries to make complaint.

In fact, I would like to hear their side of story as well.

Roy

You said “All advisors here this too.”
I am sorry I don’t understand what you mean.

Who said my case is more important (I took the liberty to assume you mean important by inportant)?
Who said my lawyer should stop assisting their clients?
I think your statement is not only senseless but it is also irrelevant.

Under the circumstances, I don’t see the point of mentioning which application or which deadline. I am not sure what your point is in asking these.
My complaint was, the lawyers are not responding in timely manner, and taking so long to do the assessment (much longer than what they said)
Are you suggesting there are certain applications and certain deadlines in which it is norm to be delay? To take longer than what was promised before?
What is the point of mentioning the PRRA success rate? Is success rate is the bench mark for quality and efficacy of service?

Right, I said emails, with “s”, which means plural, which means more than once.
Five emails if I must be specific. However, again, I don’t see the point of the importance in the number of delayed emails. How many emails my lawyers have to delay before I should make complaint?

Of course, if I want to change my counsels I would do so. There is no need for your advice on this.
My questions were how I should make the complaint. To whom should I make the complaint?

Roy, you said, “Do not expect a detailed response from them because from the posting here there is so little detailed information that Sharon was 100% correct.”
Sorry again, my English is not good enough to understand what you said.
I would appreciate if you can be a little more explicit.

Of your entire message, the last sentence makes the most.
It has some useful information.
Well, should I conclude, if the lawyers mess up, there is nothing much a client can do?

[02-10-2010,19:27]
[***.98.227.18]
William
(in reply to: Not happy with my lawyer.)
1) your lawyer has NO IDEA how long it is going to take to process your application. He gets the same information as everyone else from the CIC website
2) he may not be answering you in a timely manner because CIC is not answering in a timely manner.
3) If you wish to change lawyers - by all means, do so. Advise CIC that they are no longer your authorized representative and find someone else. When you find then, advise CIC of new representation. Make sure there is no laps in contact information.
4) do not expect a refund and do not expect that anyone is going to spank them for not meeting your expectations. There is no proven fault here.



















[02-10-2010,21:24]
[**.154.245.217]
Sharon
(in reply to: Not happy with my lawyer.)
1) I wasn’t asking how long it would take to process my application.
2) My lawyer and I were not corresponding about CIC, phew … another irrelevant
stuff.
3) This is the second time I am saying this, I hope there will be no need to repeat
it again, of course, if I want to change my counsels I would do so. There is no
need for your advice for this.
4) Thanks for your heads up.
There is no proven fault!? Hmm I resent.
I resent because, they have breached our contract agreement.
In our agreement it is clearly stated, my lawyers are to render reasonable
care. It was our agreement to conduct all our correspondence in emails and
all emails must be replied within 5 working days. I kept my part of the
agreement of course.

I am NOT complaining because they are not meeting my expectations.
I am complaining because they are breaching our agreement.
It is a written agreement, signed by both parties.
In my opinion, breaching a written agreement is something I shouldn’t keep quiet.

[04-10-2010,01:56]
[***.98.227.18]
William
(in reply to: Not happy with my lawyer.)
this is the 3rd time I am going to say this - replace your lawyer if you are not satisfied.

Complain? - it is called sue him. Good luck on that one.

[04-10-2010,13:42]
[**.154.245.217]
Sharon
(in reply to: Not happy with my lawyer.)
Now Sharon is a better speller than me but you Sir are a _____ and Sharon got tired of you very quickly. I feel sorry for your Lawyer.

What deadline? Only certain applications have processing times, most others are not on a time line to submit something by a certain time. Like initial FSW, Parental Sponsorships, Spousal Applications, CEC, H&C, PNP etc. etc. and (then you refuse to say what application) but still expect knowledgeable replies.

WHY?

Could it be that your application has no deadline other then the one you claim exists.

The only application that we now know is not yours is a PRRA which has strict deadlines.

So you claim your Lawyer is breaching your agreement by that do you mean when they say they have an obligation to keep you reasonably informed?

Like a Lawyer is going to put into a contract WE will reply within 24hrs of any question no matter how ridiculous foolish and repetitive the question is. LOL

Well I hope they submit the stuff you gave them because I see how argumentative you are. You probably argued that certain information they claim is necessary is not necessary at all. That is why YOU´RE delaying the processing because they have a reputation they wish to maintain and they are trying their best to convince you to do things the way they know CIC claims they should be done..

Been there, heard that!

Roy
cvimmigration.com

[04-10-2010,15:40]
[**.229.194.228]
Roy
immigration matter (in reply to: Not happy with my lawyer.)
I was also unhappy with my lawyer, my case has been over a year now with my lawyer and doesn´t have a date yet, each time I call him he is in the meeting. I just want my family to be here after 10 years..
[04-10-2010,22:27]
[**.55.141.77]
Johann Leung
(in reply to: Not happy with my lawyer.)
Lawyers, immigration consultants, and anything similar to those.... are pieces of craps, including the one who boasts in here. They only focus in making a huge hole in your wallet.

Money not yet received, clients are kings.
Money received, clients... sorry, who?
Don´t listen to them, find out yourself, that´s the best way.

[05-10-2010,23:59]
[***.136.121.34]
apron
(in reply to: Not happy with my lawyer.)
Sharon thanks for replying (relatively more) relevantly.

I paid my lawyers for their service so it is very easy to kick them out. Besides, I have more than enough money to hire and fire ten immigration lawyers on monthly basis for 20 years and there are enough supply of immigration lawyers in Canada as well.

Going through your reply, it reminds me of an editor from a rundown local magazine. He is somewhat stupid, certainly very arrogant and quick to belittle to others especially to authors. He thinks authors are dumb and he has the duty to correct everything the authors say. So he makes a lot of editing, most remarkable of all was HE HAD CORRECTED A PEN-NAME of an author.

My dear Sharon, it is COMPLAINT. NOT sue. Besides complain is NOT called sue him. They are entirely different.
Complain is to make a formal allegation against a party.
To sue is to proceed with legal action.

In the very first place, I was seeking for an address / name of an organization/association whatever you call it to file a COMPLAINT. I don’t need your correction on what my intention is. I know what I want to do.

It seems you don’t understand about complaining and suing.
A few years back, I had a problem with my doctor and needless to say, I changed my doctor. I didn’t sue him because I didn’t want to sue him. But as a responsible citizen, I think I am obliged to file a formal complaint, so responsible authorities can take necessary action(s) to prevent him from harming further more patients.
Now do you understand? It is not so difficult, quite simple.

(Health authorities issued a warning and keep him in checked to make sure he observes code of conduct. Full stop)

Well, well, well … Roy, I don’t have slightest concern in your perception on me and even lesser interest in your emotions towards my lawyer. Moreover, they are not relevant to the original question.

There is a deadline, which you don’t need to know.
Of course I would disclose this information to the authority / organization / association to which I send my COMPLAINT. Not to you. You don’t need to know this information to give me the address in question.
They will see to it if my allegation is eligible or not. Not you. Not here.

Deadline or not my lawyer HAS TO reply my emails within 5 working days because that is our agreement. Full stop

Roy, please feel free not to share your speculations. Your reply is full with speculations, which reveal more and more of your character and caliber and dignity of this forum. One day, if and when you become mature, you might regret and shame.

Anyway, Roy, I thank you for replies, although some replies maybe irrelevant, senseless, heedless, arrogant, over zealous to belittle, spelling error prone and even outright stupid. I thank you Roy. No kidding, really I thank you.

Dear Apron, thanks for your advice. I agree with you. I will do research in other respectable, self-respecting, prestigious sites.


[06-10-2010,04:57]
[***.98.227.18]
William


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