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Subject: Spousal visit or sponsorship
  Hi everyone!!! I am a citizen. I am getting married in december 2010 in pakistan. I was engaged to her in march of 2008. I didnt know that i could have applied for her immigration even when i was engaged. Now she wants to start living with me right after our marriage.
I have two options i think, plz help me choose one:

1. I can come back to canada sponsor her and wait for her application to be processed (8 to 14 months).

2. What if she applies for visit visa and comes to canada and then we register our marriage here in canada and this way we can apply for in land application and she can start living with me. There is enuf time right now that she can apply for visit visa and come to canada with me after our marriage. There are many questions now ... do we disclose that we are a couple? is there another option so that i dont have to lie? i mean all we want is to be together.

option 1 is right but i wont be with her option 2 seems to be so complicated ... what do u guys think ... would there be any problems if i take option 2? .... what could go wrong ... i know she wont be able to work ... what if her visit visa expire would they extend it? can our application be rejected? if yes then on wut grounds?

[14-10-2010,18:12]
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anb333
Spousal Immigration (in reply to: Spousal visit or sponsorship)
You can apply for your spouse´s visitor visa in Canada. If officer gives visitor visa then you can apply under with in Canada spousal sponsorship.She will get work permit after receiving approval in principle.
If she does not get visitor visa then you will have to apply for spousal sponsorship outside Canada.
For further queries contact 647-588-7199

[14-10-2010,21:41]
[***.117.188.39]
Manjula
more info (in reply to: Spousal visit or sponsorship)
I didnt get wut u were trying to say? is there something called spousal visit visa? you mean to say that i can apply for her spousal visit visa after our marriage in dec?
can she apply for visit visa right now? right now we are just engaged ... and now when she applies for visit visa does she mention me or not? those were questions i wanted to be addressed.

Moreover, i have another imp question. application processing time for pr as a spouse is 8 to 14 months for islamabad. Right now my going to be wife is in england on work visa till 2012 ... and application processing times for london 2 to 8 months ... can she apply from london? even though her home country is pakistan or can she apply from london?

[14-10-2010,23:44]
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anb333
query (in reply to: Spousal visit or sponsorship)
GOOD AFTERNOON.I AM AN APPLICANT FOR A PERMANENT RESIDENCY.I, AS THE PRINCIPAL APPLICANT, FILED MY APPLICATION LAST JUNE 2005 IN THE PHILS.UNTIL NOW WE ARE STILL AWAITING FOR ANY UPDATES.THIS APPLICATION IS ´POINT SYSTEM´.I HAVE ALSO A BROTHER IN CANADA FOR ALMOST 8 YEARS NOW.

MY HUSBAND IS WORKING IN CANADA, ALBERTA NOW FOR 2 YEARS AND 5 MONTHS TO BE EXACT AS TEMPORARY WORKER..AS SKILLED WORKER.MY QUESTION IS,CAN MY HUSBAND FILE FOR A SPOUSAL VISA OR CAN HE BRING ME AND MY 2 CHILDREN AGES 10 AND 18?WHAT CAN YOU SUGGEST?OR DO WE HAVE TO WAIT FOR OUR APPLICATION AS PERMANENT RESIDENT.THE FAMILY CAN´T WAIT NO LONGER AND WE WANT TO BE WITH HIM.WHAT DO WE DO?PLEASE HELP US.

THANK YOU VERY MUCH...GOD BLESS!

YOURS TRULY,

JINA TAN

[16-10-2010,03:12]
[***.60.240.215]
JINA TAN
(in reply to: Spousal visit or sponsorship)
anb333-there is no such thing as a spousal visitor visa.

Visitors visas are granted when CIC can be certain that a VISITOR has sufficient connections to their home, (job, house, spouse etc) has sufficient money to support themselves while in Canada and that there is good assurances that they will return home at the end of the visit.

So, in theory, your wife could apply for a visitors visa but it is highly unlikely that her request will be successful.

To be clear - there is no fiance application. Married/Common Law or not at all.

Are you a citizen or a PR. In this case it makes a difference. As a citizen you can apply outside the country and wait with your wife while your application is processed on the conditions that you can prove that you intend to return to Canada.

As a PR, you must be residing in Canada when you apply. Whatever you do, the Outland application is the very best way to approach this. Sponsor (that´s you) approval is about 45 days if all your paperwork is in order. Applicant approval (your wife) is 5-6 months if everything is in order. If you get turned down for some reason, there is an option for appeal that is not available to you if she is already in Canada.

The visa office that would handle the application is decided by CIC and since her current residency for the next 2 years is London, the odds are very good that the file would go there.

MAKE SURE when you start pulling this application together that you do it correctly and completely.




[16-10-2010,14:13]
[**.154.245.217]
Sharon
sharon (in reply to: Spousal visit or sponsorship)
yes sharon i am a citizen. so how long would that process take if i apply from pakistan and stay there with her?
[16-10-2010,21:39]
[**.68.136.156]
anb333
(in reply to: Spousal visit or sponsorship)
CIC does not offer processing times for the scenario you mention but I would venture to guess that you could add on another couple of months as there will be more time spent making sure that you intend to return to Canada.

[16-10-2010,22:03]
[**.154.245.217]
Sharon
(in reply to: Spousal visit or sponsorship)
you can apply from abroad - in your case pakistan. presumably the processing time is similar to any other spousal application processed at this embassy.
bear in mind that if sponsoring a spouse when living abroad you must show supporting documents that you have a serious intend to move back to canada otherwise your app will be refused as you´re not eligible as a sponsor.

[18-10-2010,19:57]
[**.212.12.141]
Anonymous
better option (in reply to: Spousal visit or sponsorship)
She also has work permit for UK, till 2012. She did her master´s in UK and after that she got work permit.
So now that we have established that applying for PR from London, is the best option as the processing times are considerably less. Now the question arises that her application would be processed according to London processing times even though her home country is Pakistan? Moreover, we will get married in pakistan in dec 2010 and then she will fly back to england so hopefully marriage certificate from pakistan (translated in english) would be a good enough proof.

I come back to canada and apply for her sponsorship and she goes to england and waits there for her application to be processed there this would take 2 to 8 months. (london office)

Has anyone ever done this before that they chose to apply from a different office other than their country of citizenship.

1. Can she take her medical exam in pakistan while i am there in pakistan, would it be valid if we are applying from london office or does it have to be done in London?
2. She has a open work permit, even if she doesnt have a job currently in england she is legal in UK but would that be a problem for CIC?
3. Does she have to stay in UK while her application is processed in London office? I mean can she still go and see her family in pak?
4. The only time she might be required to be in London in person is when they need to interview her?

[18-10-2010,22:23]
[**.68.136.156]
anb333
(in reply to: Spousal visit or sponsorship)
I think PR processing without citizenship of country of residence in general is possible - not quite sure when sponsoring someone, though. You´d better get in contact with the embassy or CIC.
I´d recommend to apply from the country where you´ll reside or intend to reside during the application period as there will be some correspondence and maybe an interview might be required as well. london will probably not provide you a fast track application as you will be required to submit a bunch of documents including birth certificate, marriage certificate, criminal record, etc. which most of them will need to be requested from pakistan, which will take some time. to get all the docs gathered and papers filled this will take a while, too. don´t underestimate the effort to provide proof of genuine marriage. that´s quite a challenge as london is unlikely quite familiar with pakistani wedding ceremonies and also all other papers. this might lead to additional delays...
if you intend to move to another country during the app is being processed you need to notify CIC. in this case her file might be transfered to the most appropriate embassy.

btw: i assume CIC is more interested in your job (to be eligible as a sponsor) as in hers. as long as she has a legal status in the UK her income nor her education will really matter.

[18-10-2010,23:40]
[**.212.12.141]
Anonymous
Spousal sponsership withdrawl and reapplication (in reply to: Spousal visit or sponsorship)
I met and married my husband in 2009, we were set up by a friend and liked each other so decided to marry. My husband is from Fiji (south Indian - madrasi) I am Canadian born and white. I married him for love, but he has left me twice both time the police and social services were involved, the first time because he was rough with me but the last time 3weeks ago he called them, because he was mad his papers were taking long and we had been having some arguments since his parents came and they wanted to take him back to fiji. My husband and i have a daughter, he left the first time 2 1/2months ago when she was 1 month old. now again he left and his parents adn sister conviced him to call the cops and social services (even tho we were not arguing and nothing had happend with baby) so he could get his stuff - but i kno they were playing tit for tat. So needless to say after he left saying how he hated me and our daughter and wanted nothing to do with us and he was going back to fiji and that was it. I delt with all the drama and the bills as he took all our money and wouldnt pay his bills or rent and told the cops and social services that he wouldnt support us at all.

Now he is calling and wanting to come back, I didnt know he told them he didnt want me or baby until today, but for the last week he has been trying to get me to do his papers again and go back to him.
I had cancelled his papers after waiting a week for him to call me and chack on us or appoligise, he didn´t so i sent in the letter of withdrawl....now he is reallyl pushing me to come back and do his papers and keeps telling me he will be so happy and make our life so nice when he gets his papers....I don´t really kno what he wants now, i feel he is setting something up and i think he is looking for papers but i love him and hope he just finally got some sense knocked in him and is ready to step up and be a good husband and dad.
He has also been reported for working without a visa. i kno that is bad but i am wondering IF i decided to do his papers again, how does this all effect it.
If he has to go back to fiji (his permit expires in Jan. 2011) then can i apply for him again outside canada and is there a chance he will get approved for PR and be able to come back and stay with us as a family? how long would it take with the hurdles now in our way and his domestic dispute records, and working without a visa thing? we have a baby and were married in canada, and loved each other when we married.

Do you think it is better to apply for him from fiji and how long you think that would take? or should I try from in canada again and withdraw the withdrawl letter?

Do you think he is using me for papers? or is he just having a hard time figuring out having a family, and a selfish bad temper?

thanks sorry it is loong...i am very confused.

[20-10-2010,18:11]
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Missy