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Ok this is a classic example of poor planning.
As much as I can understand the humane part of all this, there are a couple of things that you have to understand as well Roy.
1- A Canadian child will not prevent mom´s removal at least not in this situation, she is not seeking asylum, she over stayed her visa has an active deportation order against her. I think we understand that right? I am pretty sure that she was told that right from the get go.
2- This person knows and have known that she is facing an imminent deportation. It takes 10 to 20 days to obtain a passport or less in cases of emergency. Why the hell didnīt she apply for a passport for her child 20 days ago?. This has been an on going process for WAYYYY longer than that.
Does this mean that this lady has no fault what so ever?
[26-10-2010,14:38]
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DocD |
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(in reply to: Uncaring CBSA officer part II)
The Venom coming out of your mouth DocD!!!
Shame, Shame, Shame!!!!!
WOW the issue is not that she overstayed and was to be removed it was the way she got caught by super investigation of CBSA staff. NOT!
The babies biological father after forcing himself on her because she couldn´t complain being illegal and all called CBSA to get her arrested at the CAS office.
When this woman finally said ENOUGH and was planning to speak with the Police to press charges he had to USE CBSA to remove his babies mother.
Now the CBSA Officer deferred the removal for one day after her court appearance. Real BIG compassionate CBSA Officer.
Your funny DocD the Chinese government takes a minimum of three months to get a travel document for their citizens.
Roy
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[26-10-2010,18:40]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Uncaring CBSA officer part II)
That´s right, I forgot this is about a new born. I was confused with a similar case where the child was older.
I should have read your link.
The Chinese government takes a minimum of three years? So what? Last time I checked, I was not in China so that is not relevant stay on topic would you?.
What it gets me is the part when she says "Enough!" Is that the truth?
Or maybe, after having the baby she was planning on doing what she has been doing in the last little while...like being illegal?
She has not applied for asylum, she has been illegal since 2001.
Sorry, I don´t believe her. I don´t believe a single word that comes out of her mouth.
There are two separate things here, she will be able to get a passport for her new born. She will be with her baby I don´t doubt that AND she will get deported.
I personally think that the officer should have used a valid time line for her removal and based the time line on the time that takes to get a passport for a minor since his/her birth certificate takes a while to arrive.
Other than that, I think she is full of drama (for a lack of a better word).
[26-10-2010,19:59]
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DocD |
(in reply to: Uncaring CBSA officer part II)
You can´t read hmmm - I said three months to get a Chinese Travel Document and you claimed 10 - 20 days or faster. Like all foreign Embassies and Consulates JUMP when CBSA asks for a travel document.
Go back to looking for an extra carton of Cigarettes.
Uncaring is when the officer deferred the removal to one day after court so get me a Canadian passport in less than 24 hours, LOL
Roy
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[26-10-2010,20:07]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Uncaring CBSA officer part II)
Roy, DocD, do you really think it is a good idea to debate the merits of a specific case that does not involve anyone on this forum that has asked for assistance? Roy, is this person a client?
DocD looks through 1 set of eyes, Roy looks through another. Do you actually think you are going to agree on this?
[26-10-2010,23:07]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Uncaring CBSA officer part II)
"You canīt read hmmm - I said three months to get a Chinese Travel Document and you claimed 10 - 20 days or faster. Like all foreign Embassies and Consulates JUMP when CBSA asks for a travel document".
Point taken, I have been in front of a computer for too long today I was pretty tired when I read your last post.
And you don´t need a foreign embassy to apply for a Canadian passport for a minor within Canada.
And yes... CBSA can push things harder than a civilian.
Sharon,
No, I don´t think we are going to agree on this. I think this is a good topic to educate readers.
I don´t think there is such a thing as "Common sense" there is nothing common about that between human beings.
I think is about following process and procedures, when a person follows his/her heart and the other "set of eyes" is following an operations manual and for some reason both parties have to stand in front of a judge, guess who is going to win?
The moral of the story is that family members whether they are a new born or a husband/wife, H&C applications in process will NOT prevent a removal from Canada.
A person can complain all they want but at the end of the day someone is going get deported.
Removals are carefully considered, but there is a federal law that has to be enforeced as well.
And honestly, I like Roy. He is a good guy with a big heart no question about that. Funny way to see things though. I bet he was a hippie!
[26-10-2010,23:55]
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DocD |
(in reply to: Uncaring CBSA officer part II)
hmmmmm, I have met Roy. Tough to squint my eyes and see a hippy :) Passionate about his job... absolutely.
I have no problem batting an issue around for the sake of intellectual stimulation - just try and talk nicely to each other, ok?
[27-10-2010,00:34]
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Sharon |
(in reply to: Uncaring CBSA officer part II)
Okay so when it comes to kids I go off the deep end as I told the Officers Supervisor yesterday. It is six and I have twenty or so e-mails this morning from people who wish to help already.
http://www.torontosun.com/news/torontoandgta/2010/10/26/15838756.html
CAS is necessary in certain cases, granted.
The Immigration Laws need to be enforced strictly in certain cases, granted.
You DocD want to defend CBSA because most Officers do understand that removals with children must be handled with a little more compassion, granted.
This (one) particular Officer just didn´t show the basic compassion that should of happened in this case, in my opinion.
There is no issue of crimminality in this particular case and all I want is a FAIR opportunity for her to get her child back from CAS. FAIR is all I ask.
Come on lets Kiss and make up DocD!
Roy
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[27-10-2010,07:10]
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Roy |
(in reply to: Uncaring CBSA officer part II)
"Come on lets Kiss and make up DocD!"
Yikes.
Hopefully it works out them.
[27-10-2010,12:51]
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DocD |
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