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Subject: PR Validity
  A friend of mine landed in early 2007, she then left for more than 3 years and all the way through stayed outside the country. She sent me a message recently claiming that she now wants to go back to Canada, and starts a new life with her stil-valid PR Card. She however told me that a friend of her has clearly advised her she can not even enter Canada due to her long stay outside the Country. She asked me to help, and I accidently found this forum and I would like some one to answer her on whether she will be allowed in to Canada and further allowed to stay, live and work? or she will be banned from entering the Country at Airport/allowed then requested to leave?
[15-11-2010,23:39]
[***.205.133.120]
Kim Lee
(in reply to: PR Validity)
If she has to show her PR card to enter Canada, that is true - she´ll likely be denied entry. If she has a passport that allows visa-free entry, she can attempt to resume PR life and establish a new 2 year residency period.
[15-11-2010,23:50]
[**.47.175.80]
Anonymous
(in reply to: PR Validity)
The last advise doesn´t make any sense.

She will be allowed in. Having a valid PR card doesn´t mean that she has a valid PR status. She has to be in Canada two years in a five year period in order to keep her PR status.

So you do the math.

[16-11-2010,00:02]
[***.166.240.141]
DocD
(in reply to: PR Validity)
If you can establish 2 out of 5 years residency in the most recent 5 year period, prior time is not factored. Just stating a fact according to the law. Entry on an expired or soon to be expired PR card is no guarantee of admission. Don´t always believe condescending "experts" who like to hang around here.
[16-11-2010,00:24]
[**.47.175.80]
Anonymous
(in reply to: PR Validity)
Actually,

Anonymous

You are wrong.

Allowed in ? Yes
Allowed to stay unchallenged?
No


Go study up some more before posting erroneous information

[16-11-2010,02:39]
[**.66.68.179]
JamesM
PR Validity (in reply to: PR Validity)
Many thanks to you all... although answers are a bit confusing but at least encouraging her to try... why not?
Thanks again.
K. L.

[16-11-2010,05:16]
[***.205.133.120]
Kim Lee
(in reply to: PR Validity)
Anonymous,
Wrong again. PR card soon to expire has NOTHING to do with a valid PR status.

Inform yourself a little bit better before start informing someone else.



[16-11-2010,11:16]
[***.115.153.178]
DocD
(in reply to: PR Validity)
Anonymous is mostly right about this. If you get into the country without being challenged at the border about your residency obligation, you can resume residency in Canada.

James:

"Actually,

Anonymous

You are wrong.

Allowed in ? Yes
Allowed to stay unchallenged?
No


Go study up some more before posting erroneous information"

When exactly will he be challenged after being allowed in?

hmmmm... when he applies for PR card. But he does not need to apply for one before he accumulates those 730 days and if he does not leave the country in the meanwhile he is not going to be challenged.


Amir Shuval CCIC, FCMI
Member of the Canadian Society of Immigration Consultants
Commissioner of Oaths for Canadian Immigration Matters
www.greatnorthimmigration.com
46 St. Clair Avenue East, Suite 202B
Toronto, Ontario M4T 1M9
Tel: +1.416.904.8210
Fax:+1.416.981.7670

[16-11-2010,16:53]
[**.198.8.70]
Amir
(in reply to: PR Validity)
any comment fro Roy?
[16-11-2010,21:53]
[**.247.182.4]
SG
(in reply to: PR Validity)
in response to AMIR.

Thanks for giving the advice of "lie at the border".
You sound like a stand up person.

I would recommend knowing what may actually happen to you if you do not meet the residency requirements, and then if the subject decides to lie on their own accord fine.

A professional should not be giving advice on how to break the law.

Just my .02

[17-11-2010,02:08]
[**.55.28.135]
jp
jp (in reply to: PR Validity)
jp who suggested to lie?

Get a clue...


It does not say anywhere that you should present the table with your activity and residential history for the past 5 years to the first person who greets you when you set your foot on Canadian soil whether they refer you to secondary or not....

If they refer you to secondary and ask you questions tell them the truth. You have a right to request consideration for retention of the status on H & C ground. You have a right to appeal CIC´s decision.

This is entirely up to CBSA/CIC to take care of the enforcement and examination at the POE. You don´t need to tell the CBSA officer that take your passport:" i landed in 2004 and then whet to Luxembourg for 2.5 years and then lived with my Canadian common law partner in Switzerland for 8 months, and then resided in Regina, SK for 7 months....blah blah"...

"oh Amir you just told him to lie...you told him to misrepresent"...--JP work on your reading comprehension

I just LOVE how in these internet immigration forums someone bad mouths you and then it turns out they are not really on top of the legislation, the procedures, the enforcement mechanism and how it all works together.

Amir Shuval CCIC
46 St. Clair Avenue East, Suite 202B
Toronto, Ontario M4T 1M9
T: +1.416-904-8210
F: +1.416-981-7670





[17-11-2010,11:45]
[**.198.8.70]
Amir