Outland/inland basics

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Subject: Outland/inland basics
  If you marry in Canada while your fiancee is on a TRV and you apply for an INLAND spousal sponsorship/perm. res.:

1. How long does it take on average?
2. Would you need to apply to extend the TRV (say six months), or will it be unnecessary once you get married?

If you marry in Canada while your fiancee is on a TRV and you apply for an OUTLAND spousal sponsorship/perm. res.:

1. If an interview is required in your spouse´s country of residence, and the interview is successful, how much time, on average, will it take before your spouse can come back to Canada?

2. Is the interview the last step, or are there other procedures that could take a long time?

[02-12-2010,14:41]
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Mark
(in reply to: Outland/inland basics)
1. How long does it take on average?
18 Months to 3 years

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/information/times/perm-fc.asp

2. Would you need to apply to extend the TRV (say six months), or will it be unnecessary once you get married?

Yes

If you marry in Canada while your fiancee is on a TRV and you apply for an OUTLAND spousal sponsorship/perm. res.:

1. If an interview is required in your spouse´s country of residence, and the interview is successful, how much time, on average, will it take before your spouse can come back to Canada?

I don´t know the actual time line but I do know that Canadian Embassies, may take from 2 weeks to 6 months to issue the CORP and visa once the passport is requested. With the exception of a few Embassies where they request the passport right from the very beginning of the process.

2. Is the interview the last step, or are there other procedures that could take a long time?

No the interview is not the last step, it can be but it is not carved in stone, depends the reason for the interview.
When a person is called in for an interview, it is very important to obtain and read the CAIPS notes to see the "why" the officer didn´t waive the interview.

One thing that may cause a delay is when a person has lived in different countries other than their own for more than 6 months, they have to provide a police record and CIC is required to do the background checks. It depends on how easy CIC can obtain the information they need about the person who is in the process of immigrating.
Medicals, usually are quick and valid for one year.

[02-12-2010,18:59]
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DocD
(in reply to: Outland/inland basics)
Thanks Doc for this info, it is very helpful.
It sounds that, without question, outland processing is the best way to go.
In our case, my fiancee hasn´t lived outside of her home country ever, so that won´t be a factor.

I guess we should hope that an interview isn´t requested.
Can medicals and all of that stuff be done in Canada?


[02-12-2010,20:43]
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Mark
(in reply to: Outland/inland basics)
If she has been in Canada for over 6 months, she is required to present an RCMP record.

Get the medicals from the country she is applying from. Everything will time better at the end.

[02-12-2010,23:03]
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DocD
(in reply to: Outland/inland basics)
>If she has been in Canada for over 6 months, she is required to present an RCMP record.<

OK thanks Doc, that´s good to know!

>Get the medicals from the country she is applying from. Everything will time better at the end.<

At what stage of the application (outland) will the medicals be needed?
Surely not for a while, otherwise there wouldn´t be any point of doing an outland while in Canada?







[03-12-2010,00:42]
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Mark
(in reply to: Outland/inland basics)
The medicals must be done before the application is submitted (regardless of whether you are doing outland or inland).
[03-12-2010,11:13]
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Anonymous
(in reply to: Outland/inland basics)
Thanks Anon, that´s very helpful, I didn´t know that.

Besides the medicals, are there any other things to do in the _outland country before the application can be submitted (besides filling out the basic forms)?

[03-12-2010,16:55]
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Mark
(in reply to: Outland/inland basics)
I just got off the phone with IMM Canada and found out about a ´3rd option´.
Previously I knew about Inland and Outland processing.

Now I know about the Inland/Buffalo option.

But I just know it´s an option and little else.
I was told it would take approx. 11 months to process for that route.

I was told doing a regular outland app. (from inside Canada) would take 8 months on average (for our country).

Are there any advantages that I should know about for going the Buffalo route, apart from a closer interview?

TIA

[03-12-2010,18:00]
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Mark
(in reply to: Outland/inland basics)
I believe you are being quoted 2nd phase timelines only. The biggest difference in the inland outland wait is approving the Canadian sponsor.

Anyone I have spoken to says Buffalo takes FOREVER

[03-12-2010,19:03]
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Sharon
(in reply to: Outland/inland basics)
There are two risks that you should think about.


1- Can your fiancee enter the US? in case she needs to go down for an interview?

2- What makes you think that even if she has a valid visa to enter the US, that she will be allowed to re-enter Canada. Hmmmm, there is a 50/50 chance there and if she is refused of entry, things can go south in your application pretty quick.


3- Buffalo office?, they are way far behind in their processing.

Best option, outland from her home country.

[03-12-2010,19:23]
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DocD
(in reply to: Outland/inland basics)
>I believe you are being quoted 2nd phase timelines only...

Anyone I have spoken to says Buffalo takes FOREVER<

Thanks Sharon.
I was quoted the following for our case:
Inland 9 mo. + 9 mo. = 18 mo. total
Inland/Buffalo 11 mo. (Would that be phase one or total?)
Outland 8 months (I thought that would be total)

We were comparing Inland/Buff and Outland and we agreed that the 3 month difference made Outland a better choice.





[03-12-2010,20:08]
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Mark