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Subject: TRV application rejected
  Recently, I invited my fiancé to visit me in Canada for 3 months, but unfortunately, his application was rejected stating that he didn´t have enough ties and money in his country, and therefore, could remain in Canada.
This statement in his case is totally illogical and absurd as the purpose of visit was to know each other more for possible marriage, and if he would have any ties in his country then he could not be my fiancé.
Why not to state directly that visits for possible marriage are not allowed? Is it because it is a very shameful statement?

[15-01-2011,23:25]
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mva
(in reply to: TRV application rejected)
nothing shameful about it. Simply, far too many people forget they agree to go home at the end of their visit. So, easier for CIC to say now. Their solution - you go be the one to go visit your fiance.

If you know each other well enough to agree to marry - what is the point of a visitor visa?

[15-01-2011,23:34]
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Sharon
(in reply to: TRV application rejected)
Different people have different reasons, goals, and actions. But this is not my point. I believe that in our case we have to be free to make our own decisions because it is our human right, and we never promised to exclude the possibility of marriage in Canada. Is it a crime to visit, to make the right decisions, and then in the case of marriage legally change his status from TR to PR ?
[16-01-2011,00:07]
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mva
(in reply to: TRV application rejected)
hi,i am going for 1 month in the philippines this coming march and come back in april,i have my multiple visa and working permit...do i need to apply reentry?i´m worried so please reply me...thank u and God bless
[16-01-2011,00:40]
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ghie
(in reply to: TRV application rejected)
it may be your human right to make decisions, but it is not Canada´s obligation to say yes to a visa. It is not a crime to visit, neither is it a right.

you cannot change a TR to PR - that is EXACTLY why CIC says no. Because you are not intending to comply with the terms of the visa - YOU SAY IT YOURSELF

[16-01-2011,02:55]
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Sharon
(in reply to: TRV application rejected)
I personally know some people who changed their TR to PR after marriage and without marriage.

No, we are talking about different things. What I mean is that for cases of possible marriage ‘the terms of the visa’ should be different because the present terms are in violation of our human rights making our international marriages impossible by creating unnecessary obstacles.

First of all, I mean that we are not slaves, prisoners, zoo animals, or mentally disabled patients, and nobody in this world should force us to comply with any ‘terms’ by depriving us of any of our human rights, nobody should allow or not allow us to marry the person we select for marriage or to make it somehow impossible for us to be free to get married. Instead, in cases of multicultural and international marriages there should be much more respect, acceptance, cooperation, understanding, attention, good will, and friendly hospitality.

[16-01-2011,09:17]
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mva
(in reply to: TRV application rejected)
mva,

You still don`t understand it. There is a procedure to do what you want to do. That has nothing to do with human rights.

A visitor is a person who is coming to visit and it`s going to LEAVE Canada at the end of his visit. NO more no less.

If the intention is to permanently immigrate, then follow the proper channels to do so. Your statments such as `nobody in this world should force us to comply with any ‘terms’, are not going to get you too far.

There are PROCEDURES that YOU have to follow, those are the laws of the land.


[16-01-2011,12:42]
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DocD
(in reply to: TRV application rejected)
Our intention is to spend some time together to know each other more before possible marriage.

The existing procedures are for visitors who have to be sure to return, and NOT FOR FIANCES who are not sure yet about their final decision.

The nature of the situations is very different and the same procedures can’t be applied.

[16-01-2011,14:22]
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mva
(in reply to: TRV application rejected)
mva, you are delusional. if you want some time together - get on a plane and go visit your fiance in their country. nobody is stopping you.

you can interpret the rules any way you want, argue them, stomp your feet, etc. If you want fiance visa - move to the US.

[16-01-2011,15:05]
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Sharon
(in reply to: TRV application rejected)
So you mean there is a fiancé visa in the US? Why not in Canada? I can’t move to the US, but I am glad that they understand the need of different ‘terms and procedures’ because the present Canadian procedures are only stealing our money for rejecting our applications when we say the truth about the possibility of our marriage, and no matter how many times we apply, the result will be the same.

Why do you advise me to go to visit my fiancé? I don’t think it is very appropriate for any reasonable woman to go alone to a strange country. According to their cultural traditions women and children should be protected from traveling alone, and financially it is more inconvenient for me to go there than for him to come here. Also, if we decide to marry there, anyway, he would not be given Canadian visa to come with me and I would have to come back alone and start another procedure that would take a lot of time.

I don’t think I am delusional. I can see the cruel reality as it is, I can see the unwillingness to make any positive changes, and I really don’t want to be deprived of my right for marriage by any unfair and artificially created obstacles. Why it irritates you so much? You don’t need to be so angry. Do you think I am wrong?

[16-01-2011,17:02]
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mva
(in reply to: TRV application rejected)
MVA, I agree with you 100%
The Canadian system sucks in this regard.

In many cases it forces people to marry prematurely.

Just for your information, Canada used to have fiancee visas early in the last decade but they stopped the practice.

[16-01-2011,18:02]
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Anonym