Fair Immigration Policy #3

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Subject: Fair Immigration Policy #3
You did not answer my question - which countries of choice for immigration offer family class sponsorship other than spouse.
[26-04-2011,13:10]
[**.180.238.237]
Sharon
(in reply to: Fair Immigration Policy #3)
That is not the point. I don´t care what other countries do. Only my country is what matters. You just don´t get it. you can not offer it. collect the fees and then not follow through on the delivery date. I don´t really care what they do. they should be up front and honor the stated promises. if i put a down payment on a car that i should get in 2 weeks and i have made a take a cab because i expect it any day after the 2 weeks pass but the date keeps changing. It is now 3 months and no end in sight. We can thank Harper for his failing to stand by posted dates supplied by CIC. You don´t cash the check and then say we will get to you whenever we feel like it. That is total BS and this is the way it is with Harper and company. "DON´T POST OFFERS ON A SERVICE YOU ARE NOT WILLING TO PROVIDE". ANSWER THAT. Once you cash the check you should provide the service in a timely manner and not to far of the posted times. If they change it today that is their prerogative. Hopefully we will be gone in a week.
[26-04-2011,16:41]
[**.65.204.136]
Joe
(in reply to: Fair Immigration Policy #3)
Correction "Hopefully he(Harper) will be gone in a week."
[26-04-2011,16:43]
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Joe
(in reply to: Fair Immigration Policy #3)
I don´t get the issue - it is not a surprise that it takes so long to sponsor your parents. Nobody promised you that they´d be here next week. I sponsored my husband, and we´re sponsoring his mother, and we knew from the start that it would take years. It´s a privilege that we are able to do so. When my husband applied to come to Canada he knew darn well that he was leaving his mother behind. If you are not prepared to do that, then stay where you are. When is it ever enough? Want to come here? Ok, here are a few ways to do so... want to bring your family? Ok, you can do that to... oh wait no, it´s too hard, it takes too much time, it costs too much money, I don´t want to actually be here I just want the PR status and you should make exceptions for me because I had too many things to do and couldn´t make it there/stay there.

I am grateful I could bring my husband here. I am grateful I can bring his mother here. Period.

[26-04-2011,17:56]
[**.226.105.98]
Cangirl
(in reply to: Fair Immigration Policy #3)
you can only guarantee a delivery date when you can control the level of applications. If 10 people apply - and the quota is 10 - no problem. if 150 apply and the quota is 10 well... 140 have to wait and the following year another 150 apply - that means the next 10 get in and the backlog has ballooned to 280.

Any suggestions? 1,000,000 people are admitted into the US every year. That is .33% of their population. Canada accepts 1% of their total population.

How exactly would you suggest to divide the quota? How exactly would you suggest to reduce the exponential number of family class applications?

or do you think all 330,000 immigrants that come each year be parent?

[26-04-2011,19:10]
[**.180.238.237]
Sharon
(in reply to: Fair Immigration Policy #3)
So it is clear that Sharon is voting Conservative.

At least she is voting and no matter what will not be moved from her illogical stance that parents do not provide any support or benefit and their numbers should be decreased or they should wait forever!

The main point was in the original thread is that there are many areas at fault with the current Immigration system but certain things need to be fixed more so than parental sponsorships. That the Conservative Immigration policy was lacking.

48% of all refugee claimants from all countries are approved, WHY? 33,000 a year arrive so 15,000 + are approved every year. Should we prevent their spouses and children from coming on the coat tails of the protected persons?

Yet I believe real refugees run across the border to the neighbouring countries and do not go through two or three countries airports to get here. Or worse get into Canada on a visitor status with or without a Visitor Visa requirement than make a refugee claim some times 10+ years after their arrival.

Why should anyone be found eligible to make a refugee claim after living in Canada for more than six months????

Worse why did the Conservatives cancel the opportunity for a persecuted person in their own country to run into a Canadian Embassy to make a Refugee claim at our countries CHC?

If family reunification is a corner stone of the Immigration Act and is a clear objective of the Immigration Act then the ACT should be fixed.

OBJECTIVES AND APPLICATION

3. (1) The objectives of this Act with respect to immigration are

(d) to see that families are reunited in Canada;

(f) to support, by means of consistent standards and prompt processing, the attainment of immigration goals established by the Government of Canada in consultation with the provinces;

What Sharon fails to see is that parents offer a benefit to those FSW, Investor and Business applicants we accept.

If we accept Sharon´s logic than only Investors & Business Applicants would be admitted because in theory they would bring the most positive aspect of Immigration.

Problem is then CIC would be spending so much money dealing with the hundreds of thousands of residency appeals because the Investors and Business applicants have no desire to make Canada a better country or live in Canada.

This thread was started to focus on several aspects of Conservative Immigration policy.

***I still have not heard Sharon´s reply why any Canadian must wait 42 + months after paying for a service by the Canadian government to assess them as a sponsor!

The fact that the parent must wait longer is the other issue is totally separate.

Then if all decisions under the ACT must meet the equality provisions of the Charter why do parents from one particular country have to wait tens times longer than parents of certain other countries. That would be an unfair illegal quota.

My evening rant (can´t sleep)!

Roy
cvimmigration.com

[27-04-2011,02:46]
[***.206.28.189]
Roy
(in reply to: Fair Immigration Policy #3)
Parental Sponsorship Compromise and Solutions Richard Kurland.

http://watch.bnn.ca/squeezeplay/#clip454338

Roy
cvimmigration.com

[27-04-2011,10:08]
[**.229.194.51]
Roy
(in reply to: Fair Immigration Policy #3)
you might be surprised who I I vote for.

Roy, you more than anyone knows how tough it is to clean up immigration messes. I think the current government has taken on the FSW program first and tried to deal with the chaos that was created by offering open ended applications that were not tied to skill needs in Canada. That was a Liberal program and we are still hearing complaints from those who have given up everything to come for the dream only to find no work and little opportunity.

So, even if we do not like how it is done... we have to admit, that the Conservatives have at least taken a stab at fixing the system.

Now they are on to the refugee program and investor program.

One thing at a time.

If Canada did not publish wait times for sponsorship assessment, I would say applicants would have a beef. But the numbers are right there. You generally know what the wait might be before you sign the application and mail the cheque.

First in first out - THAT is one problem. Too many applications for the number of spots offered is another. I am still waiting for anyone to offer a solution on those issues.

Asking ´why´ questions does not offer solutions and you know as well as I do... the solutions are the only thing that counts. Questions are cheap.





[27-04-2011,14:30]
[**.180.238.237]
Sharon
(in reply to: Fair Immigration Policy #3)
Like I said Sharon has no clue.
When i applied for my mother in law the time stated on CIC web site was around 2 years. It was a number we could deal with. So we paid our fee and submitted the application.As far as I am concerned the number of applications ahead of mine are fixed. So if at the time it says 2 years to clear the back log in front of me that number should never change as far as I am concerned barring a tsunami or nuclear disaster or anything outside of their control like every one at CIC calling in sick for 2 years. So back then the stated time was 22 months Step 1 in Canada and 12 months for Step 2. So going on 4 years the stated times now are 43 months Step 1 and INCREASING EVERY DAY and 26 months or more for Step 2. What is wrong with this??? As for your second point When my application hits the system they already know how many apps are ahead of me hence the time. The site should say application entering the system now will wait approx 43 months. Not that we pay and accept 43 months but then it actually takes 100 plus months. The difference in not small. I paid for an approximate wait time of 34 month but as of today I am at 41 months and have a minimum based on the web site 28 months to go. A joke. They should be sued and held accountable. If when I started the application it said 60 months start to finish I could not really complain if they completed it in 60 months or better still they simply said no parents and sent back the money. But once they cash the check I believe they have an obligation to deliver on time line stated.

[27-04-2011,16:20]
[**.65.204.136]
Joe
(in reply to: Fair Immigration Policy #3)
Joe, my understanding of the situation more than adequate.

Who would you like to sue - the government? And what would be the outcome? Do you think you would get money... or do you think that your application would suddenly be approved? Joe, now it is my turn to say you have no clue.

I will agree with you on one point - if the wait times are dramatically altered from what is published, families should be notified and given the option to withdraw their application with a full refund.

Given the scope of family class quotas, and where parent fit into the priority within that class, there is obviously far to much flex in the numbers been processed each year.


[27-04-2011,18:56]
[**.180.238.237]
Sharon
(in reply to: Fair Immigration Policy #3)
please excuse my poor grammar in the above post. I should stop multi-tasking.
[27-04-2011,19:12]
[**.180.238.237]
Sharon