Driving into Canada together

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Subject: Driving into Canada together
  Hello,
I am a Canadian Citizen sponsoring my US citizen wife via Outland application to join me in Canada. We both currently live in the USA. The sponsorship/immigration application and all supporting documents are complete with the exception of the FBI clearance letter. We are at the 3rd attempt due to ineligible prints and hope this time it is legible. We are planning to drive up to Canada together along with our two kids (dual citizens since born in the USA). My question....if I have applied for sponsorship and it is pending when we drive up together to permanently move to Canada with our belongings, will we encounter any issues with my wife entering as a visitor until her application is processed/approved? With the exception of a few things in our vehicle (which we are also importing with RIV), all our goods will be shipped up.
Thank you

[15-05-2011,00:13]
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nazirv
(in reply to: Driving into Canada together)
Yes you will have problems and likely your wife will be refused of entry into Canada. She doesn´t appear to be a genuine VISITOR.

VISITORS ARE TO VISIT Canada, their intentions have to be... that at then of their visit they must LEAVE the country at the end of THEIR VISIT!

Brigingin your wife up here to wait until the application is approved is a terrible plan.

You risking the whole application process for your wife.

Wait until the application is done and then bring them all together.


[15-05-2011,11:21]
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DocD
(in reply to: Driving into Canada together)
What are my other options? Would bringing a copy of our completed sponsorship/immigration application with us while crossing help? The issue is getting our kids settled and registered into school in September and my job transfer which has been approved for August 1st in Canada. Could the kids and I cross the border alone since we are all Canadian citizens and my wife can fly up on her own?
Thanks for any suggestions!

[15-05-2011,11:36]
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nazirv
(in reply to: Driving into Canada together)
Nazirv, you are not listening. You are ASSUMING your sponsorship application will be approved. Border officials really hate people assuming things.

Your second plan sounds better but do not ASSUME your wife will be allowed in at the airport.

Get that FBI clearance taken care off. Do you have phase 1 approval yet?

[15-05-2011,14:49]
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Sharon
(in reply to: Driving into Canada together)
I have not sent in my application as yet since I´m waiting for the FBI clearance for my spouse. As soon as I get that last document, I will send everything in.

Could I actually send my application in now and then send the FBI clearance in at a later date?

Would it help any to get the sponsorship approval from Mississauga prior to our move?

Any reason why my wife would not allowed in at the airport since she is has visited Canada many times with me and is a US Citizen with a passport?

Thanks

[15-05-2011,15:14]
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nazirv
(in reply to: Driving into Canada together)
my suggestion would be to wait to apply until she ´visits´ Canada under your plan B. I would still apply outland.

Anything that smells like she is moving to Canada is reason for her to be turned back at the airport.

[15-05-2011,16:49]
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Sharon
(in reply to: Driving into Canada together)
Ok, so the kids and I cross the border as if we are moving and my wife can "visit" at a later date and then we would apply as outland? I would probably need a letter from my wife allowing me to move to Canada with the kids?
Thanks

[15-05-2011,19:55]
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nazirv
(in reply to: Driving into Canada together)
Why don´t you send the application in, wait until is approved and then move to Canada?


[15-05-2011,21:00]
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DocD
(in reply to: Driving into Canada together)
Many reasons, but here are a few:

1) We have already sold our current home.
2) My parents are aging and need my help.
3) Our kids are entering grade 1 in Sept and we would like them to go to French Immersion.
4) My employment transfer is complete and I start in Canada on August 1st.

BTW, I found something else online called a "Visitor Record" which would allow my spouse to extend her visit? Here is the link to the details: http://us2canada.com/visitor_record.html

Is that an option as we are all crossing at the same time with the appropriate document of proof?

Thanks

[15-05-2011,21:40]
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nazirv
(in reply to: Driving into Canada together)
I am going to give you the heartless reality... so don´t throw rocks at me, OK?

1) why did you not start this process 8 months ago? lack of planning on your part will not convince CIC to let her cross the border without a PR visa in her passport.
2) nothing stopping YOU from crossing the border.
3) see item #1
4) see #1 & #2

yes, your spouse could apply to extend her temporary visit (MAYBE) IF there was a temporary visa required and that temporary visa was approved.

Yes, you will likely need a letter from your wife allowing you to take the children across the border. (you should be thankful that such a requirement exists - even though it is a pain)

Seriously, there are thousands of Canadians that would love to do as you are suggesting. They are not - because they can`t. CIC is not interested in tracking down your wife to deport her if the application is denied. They are also not interested in the long drawn out cat and mouse game that usually goes on when people assume that they will be approved and they are not. It is better just to have people cool their heels in their current country of residence and wait it out.

[15-05-2011,22:48]
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Sharon
(in reply to: Driving into Canada together)
No rocks, don´t worry :-)

I did not start this process since I was not sure when we were planning on moving and also alerting my current employer prematurely since i needed to get an employment confirmation letter from them.

In any case, I´m reading on many other online forums that quite a few people in my circumstance have entered with a visitor record and no issues. I understand what you are are saying, however, I need other options available to me so we can enter Canada in mid-July based on my circumstances besides simply finding a place to rent and waiting it out for another ~6 months.

Thanks

[15-05-2011,22:56]
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nazirv