A departure order? Why can't I Visit?

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Subject: A departure order? Why can't I Visit?
  I became a Permanent Resident in 1977 I have 3 kids, In 1997 went to care for my aging parents who live in the US(dad passed in 06). (Government knew I was here)
Over the years I would visit my kids 3-5 times a year for 10 day or so.
Never a problem. This July went for 5 days for my sons wedding got held for 3 hours they deemed me inadmissible but allowed me to enter as long as I report back on my departure which I did. As I was ready to depart I was served with Departure Order.
It states I can not come into Canada without consent from the minister (which one?) unless an appeal has been allowed.(1 week to appeal)
I asked if I had done something wrong was told no, asked why am I being treated like I did. No reply.
I feel I should be able to visit my kids and not be singled out. I invested 27 years of my life in to Canada and still have an investment through my kids.
Yet I am treated like a criminal because I lived there.

[16-08-2011,11:47]
[**.97.78.60]
John M
(in reply to: A departure order? Why can't I Visit?)
Something does not sound right. It may have something to do with your failure to maintain your residency.

As the system becomes more and more misused, they are clamping down on out of status PR holders.


[16-08-2011,17:36]
[**.180.239.117]
Sharon
(in reply to: A departure order? Why can't I Visit?)
What is the form number IMM?

[16-08-2011,18:36]
[***.115.153.178]
DocD
WIFE GOUVERMNT DIVORCED (in reply to: A departure order? Why can't I Visit?)
someone who has not lived with her since 1997 and is no longer the permanent resident of Canada.




[16-08-2011,21:42]
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Anonymous
(in reply to: A departure order? Why can't I Visit?)
"someone who has not lived with her since 1997 and is no longer the permanent resident of Canada."


Really?



[17-08-2011,01:09]
[***.166.254.152]
DocD
(in reply to: A departure order? Why can't I Visit?)
Doc, is it just me or is 244.253 a total mystery.
[17-08-2011,01:47]
[**.180.239.117]
Sharon
IMM# (in reply to: A departure order? Why can't I Visit?)

IMM# 5292 and 1392

Where do I get proper forms for appeal?
and what are they?

[17-08-2011,08:55]
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John M
(in reply to: A departure order? Why can't I Visit?)
The 5292 is basically a replacement of the former IMM 1000 which is used to determine your Landed Immigrant Document.

The 1392 is not a good thing. There is something that just doesn´t sound right. A person who is no longer a PR and wants to visit Canada doesn´t get a 1392 unless there is something you said at the POE.

Here,

http://www.cic.gc.ca/english/resources/manuals/enf/enf04-eng.pdf

Read page 82-83

[17-08-2011,11:33]
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DocD
(in reply to: A departure order? Why can't I Visit?)
I am still puzzled with the 1392 form.

Isn´t 1342? If not, then what the heck did you say?

[17-08-2011,11:44]
[***.115.153.178]
DocD
(in reply to: A departure order? Why can't I Visit?)
The 1392 is a removal order I had 30days to appeal.
At POE there was not much I could say, I was not sure what was going on. I will say they were very rude.

[17-08-2011,13:41]
[**.97.78.60]
John M
(in reply to: A departure order? Why can't I Visit?)
Nope, 1392 is not a removal order.

There are only three ways to remove a person from Canada.

IMM 5238 (Volunteer departure order no ARC needed)
IMM 1214B Exclusion order
IMM 5238B Deportation Order

And then there is a Direction to Leave Canada IMM 1217B

and last but not least aCertificate of Departure IMM 0056B

30 days to appeal where? and appeal what? Contact the Canadian Embassy. There is something that just doesn´t sound right.

[17-08-2011,14:10]
[***.115.153.178]
DocD