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Imagine your worse day.

Your at work making five dollars an hour less than another guy because you have no legal status but at last you have a job so you can feed your family.

Than in storms CBSA, you try to run and hide but your caught. CBSA films your arrest.

The arresting CBSA Officer is so proud that they filmed him catching you he asks the following while your standing there handcuffed.

We need your consent to show your arrest on TV. Would you sign here than we will consider detention or release?

Would you sign? Dam right I would do anything to increase my chances of being released!

Shame on CBSA.

Roy
cvimmigration.com

[18-03-2013,06:23]
[***.113.87.90]
Roy
(in reply to: CBSA films arrest.)
So let me get this straight.

If you are working so you can support your family, well, we all do. Don´t we? So no sorry from me there.

Now, back to the point. Shame on CBSA for arresting a person that has a warrant?

How is that a shame? that´s the job! It is a shame that an officer is doing his/her job but it is not a shame to be under a warrant?

It can increase your chances of being released if CBSA is at fault. It is on tape.
If the agency is not a fault, well...too bad you broke the law not me.

[18-03-2013,16:15]
[***.115.153.178]
DocD
DocD (in reply to: CBSA films arrest.)
DocD,
With all due respect, you are trying to be Roman more than all Romans. Canada may have the wealth, oil, gold of the world, but lack of humanity. it is nothing but a rich RANCH like that in Texas for GW Bush.
I remember your arrogance reply to me while I was still severely traumatized from the neo Nazis in Canada. In the detention center I had been in, there were children from 2y old and up. What on earth is that for? what have they done as kids to do that to them?
It seems that some Canadians like yourself are living in PARANOIA that everyone on earth want to live in Canada and hide in Canada and ..and. Why would I seek or establish illegal life in your Canada while I am highly..far highly educated than your Immigration Minister and your Prime Minister Harper?. Before you accuse me of being snub, just go and stay there for only 2 days in Laval" detention neo nazi center.

If you are here to defend INHUMAN behaviour and INHUMAN values then answer me specifically:
Do Immigration operate 24/7 CCTV surveillance in those detention areas specially in airports? if not why not? does this tell you one thing? why filming that illegal worker for a purpose while delibrately NOT FILMING those you detain in your neo nazi camps? answer me

[18-03-2013,19:40]
[**.36.49.57]
Human
(in reply to: CBSA films arrest.)
there are not such things as Neo Nazi Camps and if you are referring to Nazi Camps of WWII you should be ashamed of yourself for suggesting the comparison.

You are protesting far too much. Get a lawyer, file a complaint and then shut up.

[19-03-2013,02:14]
[**.16.209.157]
canuck
(in reply to: CBSA films arrest.)
The issue is the abuse of power for cheap sensational TV.

CBSA sends a letter by snail mail (regular mail) that is never delivered and a warrant is issued - so what!

The person gets arrested they are not guilty, (found described)then the issue of the persons consent to show the film clip surfaces.

Sign the consent form and we will consider release or detention.

Oh I get it Doc D your one of those that say CBSA are Judge Jury and Executioner because if there is a warrant the person has to be 100% in the wrong.

Think again!

Roy
cvimmigration.com

p.s. a 16th generation "Canuck" which does not make me better than EVERYONE else in Canada according to the Charter of Rights and Freedoms.

[19-03-2013,09:52]
[**.229.22.156]
Roy
(in reply to: CBSA films arrest.)
Human,
Quoted "Do Immigration operate 24/7 CCTV surveillance in those detention areas specially in airports? if not why not? does this tell you one thing? why filming that illegal worker for a purpose while delibrately NOT FILMING those you detain in your neo nazi camps? answer me"

The answer is yes.

Being a drama queen doesn´t help when dealing with a legal issue. If there is something from CBSA that was done against the operation manuals, you are more than welcome to fill a complain and report those involved, if you still thinking that your case was not handled in a proper manner, you can also take it to a federal court. If you don´t have your facts right and your only statement is "severely traumatized" and comparing this country with a Nazi regime with no evidence to support such a claim, don´t count on a judge or anybody else to take you seriously.

There are so many things in your post that are inconstant so I have a hard believing that everything that you claimed that happened to you is actually 100% true.

In a court of law there are more people than just a judge and one lawyer, if nobody else took you seriously there, why on earth would I?

Quoted"I am highly..far highly educated than your Immigration Minister"

Doesn´t look that way with your real state investments, does it?

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Roy I think Canuck is referring to somebody else.

I never said that a person that has a warrant has to be 100% wrong. All I know is that normal people that follow the law don´t get normally a warrant.
I don´t condone any kind of abuse of power and if people are told that accepting to be filmed will help them to be released, that you should be looked at, it is not right.
Cheap sensational TV, maybe. Cameras filming it or not, they still will be arrested, so technically there is no difference.

But I can´t really give you my opinion on this since, I don´t work in that particular division and I don´t know how is legally handled when it comes down to TV cameras.

In airports CCTV systems don´t have to be disclosed to the public since is a Federal Inspection Area on an international crossing point so cameras are rolling 24/7.






[19-03-2013,10:51]
[***.115.153.178]
DocD
DocD and all look alike (in reply to: CBSA films arrest.)
DocD

You are such an arrogant. That is all I can see in you and those look alike.
I ws trapped in what you call "investment". I am not investor otherwise I could have done better. The Real estate and lawyers were found as guilty as you are.
You don´t live in "perfec City" or heaven. You are like anywhere else, full of crooks, liars and paranoids.
So you want me to sue the government of Canada in so called Federal Court!!! nah nah...you want add more wealth to the immigration, trade, business of Canada...good idea.

A country full of crooks will kneel down at any point. Look around your shoulders and see USA collapsing economically because of its crooks and liars politicians. Your ignorant politicians are following the same footge of their neighbours. So be real

[19-03-2013,11:40]
[**.36.65.78]
Human
(in reply to: CBSA films arrest.)
I have debated recording CBSA staff at GTEC more than once. At the Greater Toronto Enforcement Centre in Mississauga aka (Removals Unit).

I was told I could not record the interview but in the rooms there is a sign telling all in French and English that their interviews are being audio and video recorded.

I was told once if I did not stop I would be thrown out. I told that Officer that my clients do not understand the sign nor do the vast majority of people being removed. Not one CBSA Officer brings the sign to the attention of persons being interviewed.

Needless to say I recorded the Officers call to me when he told me "I don´t care if the kids ever go to school in China, my job is to remove the parents"!

I was going to release that recording to the media but in the interim for some unusual, undeserved or disproportionate reason they approved my clients under H&C.

Roy
cvimmigration.com

[19-03-2013,20:30]
[***.113.87.90]
Roy
(in reply to: CBSA films arrest.)
DocD
Everytime something bad happens to anybody who is from a diferent background than yours you jump in happiness is if they deserve pain, Why? just because they are from other race than yours?
Personally i caint understand such evilness and cold blood , but i think at the same time that this behaviour has nothing to do with immigration issues its deep rooted into an internal psychological states of mind of unhappiness and its always easy to blame immigrants than rethink our selfs. DocD you have to look for the nice person that is sleeping inside of you , enjoying others pain is not something that you have been raised to be im sure.
I remember seeing a lady deported from Montreal airport , she was escorted by cbsa woman , she made her sign a paper and then she gave her a red copy of it , she hugged her in tears and she hoped to see her back soon .
Enforcing the law doesnt and never mean that you have to be a cold blooded evil.
Enforcing the law and being human is all of what canada is about.

[19-03-2013,20:40]
[***.112.40.86]
Goodwill
(in reply to: CBSA films arrest.)
I am not nearly as arrogant as you may think I am, in reality I am a lot of fun also a very sweet smiley guy and quite charming too.

This has nothing to do with race or being "evil".

As an officer, I am a human lie detector and I have very little to no tolerance to liers or people that have, try or want to circunvent the system.

Our immigration laws are getting tougher for the "good" people thanks to all those that have circunvented and abused the system.

You will get from me a straight helpful answer if you ask a legimate question. My answers may not be pretty or sweet but they are as real as it gets.




[20-03-2013,00:14]
[***.183.183.13]
DocD
DocD (in reply to: CBSA films arrest.)
I don´t know you DocD. But certainly I met those evil immigration officers in Montreal. They were pathetic liars. They are the ones who are taking advances of the system and the pathetic power given to them. You have rights to protect the country and guard your borders. That was my first sentence said in front of the judge...then you have duty to return people back to their countries with respect and dignity. You have obligation to enlight and inform visitors of what exactly they can face in ports of entry ..so that people or human can make their choices.
Without the greedy immigration business Canada could be nothing but some snow winters and mosquitoes summers.You have provinces without proper medical care and without ONE single doctor, although they in those provinces, they are the real owner of the land of Canada. There are huge areas in Manitoba, full of first nation, but no proper health care or doctors.

There is /was a third generation Canadian (now 28 y old).".white pure white...if that can help you, who was given the wrong diagnosis of his sickness for 12 years of suffering. It was serious condition that was completely missed. I took him with me to UK and confirmed his new/old /correct diagnosis of disease. He had never been to UK before that, thu his grandparents came from there.
So, DocD, you said you are straightforward and you like the system to work perfectly. Would you like to take this particular case (and too many like that case), and go challenge your ignorant Ministers and Prime Minister?
Remember that Canada is only 100 y old. It will only survive as long as USA is there.
You may think I hold bitterness. No no. I am human with humanity. I certainly feel sorry for too many good Canadians who do not deserve the lies and inhumanity of their rulers and immigration officers.

Again, as you are an idealistic man, can you challenge me in the case of R C from Winnipeg who was given the wrong medicine and wrong diagnisis for 12 years. and too many like him not only HIM.
Challenge me in new thread.

[20-03-2013,06:02]
[**.36.76.40]
Human