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Subject: CICs Style of Work
  I have heard on and on from Sharon and others from Canada that the style of life and work in Canada is very "liberal" and "transparent".

My question is following:

Then why is the working of CIC so conservative and filled with secrecy and mysticism? I mean yes they do work but how and when is not known to the applicant.

[12-02-2005,19:53]
[**.243.235.163]
*****
(in reply to: CICs Style of Work)
I strongly disagree. Secrecy? I was shocked when I discovered the operations manuals were public domain and anyone can read and learn how to present an application in such a way to get the best possible result. I was shocked to discover that internal CIC documents can be obtained by applicants to spruce up their answers (true or not true) to secure a positive interview. There is a clear indication (3-6 months out of date) to show how long people have waited to be processed ... As far as I can see,everything is skewed in the applicants favour. Canada has a reputation of having one of the worlds most open immigration policies.

what more do people want???

The mysticism comes from the applicants themselves. They try to read significance into the notations of their CAIPS notes. They try to compare postage dates and become all nervous because applicant A got an answer before applicant B. - dear God, something must be wrong! They try and read between the lines on the application to make the rules suit them and then get annoyed when the interpretation does not work out.

Please, do not misunderstand me. Immigration is one of the biggest decisions someone can make and it is a serious matter that deserves respect and consideration by the country in question. Any country. Is Canada conservative in its immigration policies? If you ask average Canadians...I suggest they would say we are not conservative enough.

[12-02-2005,20:11]
[***.81.114.40]
sharon
(in reply to: CICs Style of Work)
Sharon, I´m a Canadian citizen too and I´m currently in the process of sponsoring my husband from another country. I love this country and I´m probably even more patriotic than you. However, I have learned through this process that like any other country, the government is not perfect...not by a long shot. I´ve been frustrated with the immigration system beyond belief. I agree that it´s nice to be able to look at all the operating manuals and see the general timelines - but I have been witness to so many contradictions to what they present to us, that I have lost a lot of faith in the credibility of the officers who are administering our files and the "most important decisions of our lives." The fact that I can call the call centre and get three different answers by three different people on standard operation type questions really scares me. I hate that the E-Cas system is not used to its full potential and when I want to use it to find out where things are at with "this most important decision of my life", I get a vague statement which tells me less than nothing. I could go on and on - the main problems I have with the system is that it is inconsistent and the communication, despite the technology available, is lacking in a big way.

Being apart from my newlywed spouse is hell and is doing nothing for my marriage. For a government that has a mandate of family reunification, the people they hire don´t seem to be remembering who their real employer is.

[13-02-2005,03:17]
[***.206.103.89]
Deepa
(in reply to: CICs Style of Work)
Sharon,

you missed the point. I agree the manuals are there; however what I mean here is - to what extent are these followed in content and time adherence.

Why is the applicant not updated and informed as his/her file moves?

My aim is not to critisize the effort - Canada is setting an example in world community for running a great immigration program. However, they can also make it a happy experience. Is that too much to ask?

That is all.

[13-02-2005,03:45]
[**.89.71.4]
*****
(in reply to: CICs Style of Work)
Guys Guys Guys...
Listen...
No syste is perfect so you cannot expect CIC to be just perfect. Also you have to understand that they know what they are doing... Immigration is nt a hard process its a time consuming process... So no matter what happens the time they have to take is the time we have to wait... There is no option to it.

The immigration officers have to verify the document and in this case they hvave to deal with other agencies which may not work at the same pace as the CIC officers are working...

Along with that they get hundreds of cases that tey have to work on... Someone may say they can hire more officers. Like Buffalo office is taking charge of whole of US and applicants from Canada... but then if they increase more officers in the buffalo office to expediate the work thee will have to pay extra for the new officers... Where is money going to come from. It will come from the current tax payers... and taxes in Canada are already high enough.

Secondly , from last 6 years the immigration rules have been changing like every 2 years or so... and the rules are so vague to understand (I have actually read the published rules of immigration) and so there are so many matters in grey area that even the officers are not able to apply on our files...

These small things basically delay our process of immigration files.

So what I would really say is that be patient and wait till you get an answer... some CIC offices are processing the files in 7 months and some are processing in 4 years... do you think that the officers are trained differently to do the same jobs... NO... its just the infra structure in which they have to perform their duties... so stop complaining and be a bit patient...

relax and the time will come when you will be awarded what you deserve...

Cheers,
HS

[13-02-2005,14:44]
[**.146.142.1]
HS
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