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  Hello,

I asked but did not got respone except a "yes".My question is even I have not a BSc in computer science but a MSc degree (masters) in Computer science will I be also considered as a computing professional (my work is on computing).I will appreciate if you point an address explanin this

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[19-03-2005,14:20]
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ozy
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Yes you can be considered as a Computer Professional.

If you have evidence to prove that you did masters in Computing field and that you have been working in this field then you are a computing professional...


[19-03-2005,16:27]
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:-)
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Thanks for your answer do you know any web address making explanation on this?
[19-03-2005,16:32]
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ozy
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Dude,

I really don´t understand what you want in terms of explanation? No one will give you a written document to that. It is more than obvious.

There is no more explanation to this then your proof of work-experience (what you do and where you work) and your degree in MS Computer Sc.

If you have any doubts you can call up a lawyer (they do free consultations) and they will confirm.

[19-03-2005,16:42]
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*****
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when you say Computing Professional´... how are you anticipating this title to help you? Maybe if you tell us the purpose of your question we can give you a more complete answer.
[19-03-2005,17:08]
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sharon
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I mean working without a computer science degree in computer,software business should not be counted as work experience ( or am I mistaken ? ).If it would be like that there would be zillions of computing professionals since it is too easy to get a mcse mcdba ... certificates (someone can also argue that getting a degree would also be easy but not as those certificates!).I visited NOC site and when I read the descriptions on those job descriptions I saw that those words "usualy bsc in computer eng/science required".Therefore I am continuously asking what is the basis for being accepted as an computing professional.I mean I do not have a bs in computer science but a ms in computer science.And I have 2-3 years experience on this job.I hope I explained myself now.Thanks all!
[19-03-2005,17:21]
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ozy
to sharon (in reply to: read this)
sharon by "explain" I meant a web address which explains ms in computer science is equal as bs in computer science.
If you look at NOC site they describe those jobs require BSc in their works.So I understand you cant be regarded as medical doctor if you have not MD on that even you are working as MD in your country,is this true?In my country if you have not a BA in law you cant practice law even if you have a MA or PHD in law (strange but it is how it works here )I really do not know how immigration office asses this.

[19-03-2005,17:40]
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ozy
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others should correct me if I am wrong, but the computer science industry is much different than law. Your degree, certificates etc. should be proof to an employer that you are qualified for certain job positions. does that mean a Bill Gates cannot walk into an interview without those formal qualifications and be hired... it is harder but not impossible.

is that what you are asking???

[19-03-2005,17:55]
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sharon
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read your question again. If you put on your CIC application that you have work experience in an industry but do not have the qualifications to match the job... I think you would have to present a very convincing case for why your skills should qualify. I suspect it would trigger an automatic interview.

am I getting closer to your question?

[19-03-2005,18:01]
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sharon
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just talked to a US friend in the tech industry. She has 300 employees under her and does a lot of hiring. I asked about the weight of a masters over a bachelor degree in the industry. Her comment... a bachelors with extensive field experience is more desireable than a masters with less field experience.

this has no relevance to CIC but may offer some insight about why NOC does not differentiate between bachelors and masters for job profile.

[19-03-2005,18:47]
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sharon
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sharon, you get the point will bill gates be granted visa :) ( he has no bsc ).Anyway,point is that CIC has some cut-off (at least I think) where they consider BS + work experience easier as they consider someone who has no BS but certificates and lots of experience.What matter is I have no BS but a MS that is it! so I am considering whether I have a good position or not in the industry.Just wondering whether CIC will consider may case as they consider BS case.Saying shortly will my 2 years work experince after MS on computer science counted as any person who has a BS on computer science with 2 years experience.I cant explain it more than that I think.Thanks!
[19-03-2005,18:56]
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ozy
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Ok I will finalize this.I am doing "software engineering" job.I have looked to NOC site : http://www23.hrdc-drhc.gc.ca/2001/e/groups/2173.shtml

If you look at the employment requirements part ( I do not know whether it is mandatory or not therefore I am asking how is this process evaluated )

[19-03-2005,19:07]
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ozy