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Subject: To emyesbee- Visa for wife
  I disagree with Sharon and Anonimis.

It is implicit that your wife would like to go wherever you go..it doesn?t sound logical to me that CIC would think that someone?s wife could simply ditch him after coming to Canada and start living illegally.

If that was not the case, then why would CIC give an option at the first place whether the applicant wants his wife to accompany him, in the initial application. What can change if the wife comes sooner or later?? Infact it shows that the couple doesn?t care about staying in Canada and is genuinely motivated now, otherwise they could have applied in the initial application itself.

I know of many cases where some guys called their wives while studying at the universities. Not only this CIC has permitted their wives to work without HRSDC requirement as they are dependents. Even after graduation the guys could not get a job but the wives are still working. How does that sound eh?

Talk to the CIC office and state your problem, they can guide you as to which application you/your wife needs to fill. Just follow the procedure and you?ll be fine. You are already contributing to the Canadian economy, why would you be denied the company of your wife.

[04-05-2005,05:36]
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Robinhood
(in reply to: To emyesbee- Visa for wife)
It is not implicit that the wife would go wherever the husband went.....if it were, we would all have our spousal visas in a day..... HEY they are married, let´s give them a visa.
There are rules to follow and we all know the rules before we play the game.
One rule is that if someone wants a visitor´s visa, they have to show proof that they will return to their country. Having a job and letter from your boss is one GREAT way to prove you will return. It is standard evidence.

It is nice that you know cases that guys studied and wives worked and so on....but I know cases where wifes were denied visas because they didn´t have enough proof that they would return.

The decision could go either way.
Good luck!

[04-05-2005,06:10]
[**.22.118.25]
Immigration Guy
(in reply to: To emyesbee- Visa for wife)
{It is not implicit that the wife would go wherever the husband went.....if it were, we would all have our spousal visas in a day..... HEY they are married, let?s give them a visa.}

I said- It is implicit that wife would LIKE TO go wherever the husband is (& vice-a-versa if it?s a sane couple). Of course Spousal visas should be granted expeditiously if it?s a case without complications. Tell me just 1 reason why it should not be or what are negative consequences to it?? When the husband is eligible to live in Canada why not his wife? And CIC understands this and would not jeopardize the reunion of the couple; it just takes time in processing to verify facts. According to your line of reasoning CIC should say- HEY they are married so let?s not give them a visa in any condition.

{One rule is that if someone wants a visitor?s visa, they have to show proof that they will return to their country. Having a job and letter from your boss is one GREAT way to prove you will return. It is standard evidence.}

Emyesbee is already in Canada- using your logic it has already been proven that CIC believes he?ll return to his country. Now when he can be trusted by CIC why not his wife? If he has all the reasons to leave Canada (which CIC believes) after certain period what will make CIC think that his wife would remain behind illegally leaving him? Does it not sound illogical trash. On the other hand jobs can always be quitted; following your reasoning if CIC thinks she can leave her husband to live illegally in Canada what?s the guarantee that she cannot leave a simple job. So there goes your point of having a job letter.

{It is nice that you know cases that guys studied and wives worked and so on....but I know cases where wifes were denied visas because they didn?t have enough proof that they would return.}

Please refer to the explanation I?ve already given for worker and his wife. Why would the wives need to prove that they?ll return back? Their sole reason to come to Canada is their husband. He returns they return.

{The decision could go either way.}

No denying this?it all depends on the sanity/ sensibility of the CIC official handling the case. They should set some criteria like ? Both (husband & wife) or none.

[04-05-2005,06:48]
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Robinhood
(in reply to: To emyesbee- Visa for wife)
Robinhood I too agree with your comments. But I have seen some people dined visa recently that is why I was worried.

My wife has already traveld to Swiss with me and returned back and she has alos been to US on business trip and come back. Will that be an added advantage taht she will return back to India?

[04-05-2005,11:23]
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emyesbee
(in reply to: To emyesbee- Visa for wife)
So you wanna brung your wifey? So what next? Girlfriend?
[04-05-2005,18:09]
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CanuckWannaBe
(in reply to: To emyesbee- Visa for wife)
wife is my gf and gf is my wife
[04-05-2005,23:27]
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emyesbee
(in reply to: To emyesbee- Visa for wife)
According to my experience having visa stamps of different countries is a BIG advantage. So I think it makes things much easier...ask your wife to go ahead and apply with full supporting documents.

Good luck to u both!

[05-05-2005,02:41]
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Robinhood
(in reply to: To emyesbee- Visa for wife)
Thank you very much, Robin
[05-05-2005,09:16]
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emyesbee
(in reply to: To emyesbee- Visa for wife)
the difference might be that you travelled together on your other trips. in this case, she would be travelling alone - home. Be VERY honest... does you/she have any intentions of her going home and leaving you in Canada to finish your permit?

just thought I would ask

[05-05-2005,11:49]
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sharon
(in reply to: To emyesbee- Visa for wife)
I am missing the point in your question Sharon...what difference does it make? The obvious thing which comes to my mind is that they would want to be together.
[05-05-2005,19:29]
[**.183.112.122]
Robinhood
(in reply to: To emyesbee- Visa for wife)
Robinhood... I just have the feeling that we are getting a straight answer about intentions.

Why should I care???? Several reasons...If the wife has no intentions of returning home, she adds to the statistics that tell CIC to deny visitors visas. If she intends to stay for the duration of the work permit, then they need to address the issue in a different way - by ammending the work permit.

As a Canadian, I get protective when someone wants to screw with our system. Can´t help myself.

so those are the reasons I care.

[05-05-2005,21:53]
[***.181.198.246]
sharon
(in reply to: To emyesbee- Visa for wife)
Hi Sharon,

I understand your concern being a responsible Canadian citizen. I am also a law abiding person and would not suggest someone to do something illegal and screw the system.

Talking about this particular case, I am not suggesting Emyesbee that they should fool the CIC to obtain visitor visa and never return. What I am suggesting is to apply and obtain the well deserved permit so that she can reunite with her hubby. I am not sure whether they need a visitor visa for that or there is some other visa category for such spousal cases.

Even if she comes on a visitor visa that is fair enough as visitor visa doesn?t just mean that you are entering Canada for sight seeing. People are entitled to visit Canada for different reasons as I have seen from the various cases. It is quite unreasonable to challenge her intentions as she would not want to stay here illegally without getting proper extensions from CIC. And to my understanding the CIC should give her the extensions till Emyesbee?s work permit.

Why did the Canadian government allow Emyesbee to come to Canada? - because they found him qualified as a worker who will benefit the Canadian economy. It would be extremely unfair and selfish on part of the Canadian government not to let a foreign worker bring along his spouse till he/ she is here. Having said this I firmly believe they also have the right of freedom of movement- they should be able to travel back and forth to their homeland at their own will. Everybody has ones own needs and necessities which one should be able to fulfill.

I believe there is no reason in this case for you to assume that just her arrival on a visitor visa would threaten the system and jeopardize the cases of future applicants. Moreover qualified people pose no threat of overstay as they cannot achieve one single thing by staying here illegally; they cannot work except for menial jobs, they risk high medical costs, they risk deportation/ imprisonment and shame and most of all have to live away from their loved ones indefinitely.

If you still have any concerns I would be more than willing to discuss.

Cheers!

[05-05-2005,23:48]
[**.183.112.122]
Robinhood


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