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Subject: To Sharon- visitor visa discussion
  Hi Sharon,

I understand your concern being a responsible Canadian citizen. I am also a law abiding person and would not suggest someone to do something illegal and screw the system.

Talking about this particular case, I am not suggesting Emyesbee that they should fool the CIC to obtain visitor visa and never return. What I am suggesting is to apply and obtain the well deserved permit so that she can reunite with her hubby. I am not sure whether they need a visitor visa for that or there is some other visa category for such spousal cases.

Even if she comes on a visitor visa that is fair enough as visitor visa doesn?t just mean that you are entering Canada for sight seeing. People are entitled to visit Canada for different reasons as I have seen from the various cases. It is quite unreasonable to challenge her intentions as she would not want to stay here illegally without getting proper extensions from CIC. And to my understanding the CIC should give her the extensions till Emyesbee?s work permit.

Why did the Canadian government allow Emyesbee to come to Canada? - because they found him qualified as a worker who will benefit the Canadian economy. It would be extremely unfair and selfish on part of the Canadian government not to let a foreign worker bring along his spouse till he/ she is here. Having said this I firmly believe they also have the right of freedom of movement- they should be able to travel back and forth to their homeland at their own will. Everybody has ones own needs and necessities which one should be able to fulfill.

I believe there is no reason in this case for you to assume that just her arrival on a visitor visa would threaten the system and jeopardize the cases of future applicants. Moreover qualified people pose no threat of overstay as they cannot achieve one single thing by staying here illegally; they cannot work except for menial jobs, they risk high medical costs, they risk deportation/ imprisonment and shame and most of all have to live away from their loved ones indefinitely.

If you still have any concerns I would be more than willing to discuss.

Cheers!

[05-05-2005,23:52]
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Robinhood
(in reply to: To Sharon- visitor visa discussion)
I have no problems with them applying for either a visitors visa or a modification to his work permit so she can join him for the duration of his permit. None. Had she not quit her job, I would feel better and likely not have nearly the same level of uneasiness. Originally that was my biggest word of caution. They have sent a mix message to CIC through these actions.

I 100% support our friends freedom to travel back and forth to his family and home country. Nothing less would be acceptable. That is different than 100% freedom to have family members travel to Canada on the strength of a work permit.










[06-05-2005,00:45]
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sharon
(in reply to: To Sharon- visitor visa discussion)
She went to US alone and came back.

She quit her job since she did not like it and since aim now working. We do not want two of them work at the same time. That was the reson she resigned. That has nothing to do with the visa application

[06-05-2005,02:26]
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emyesbee
(in reply to: To Sharon- visitor visa discussion)
It does not matter what YOU say the reason for her quitting was...we all believe you and want you to be with your wife. We never said KEEP THEM APART.....you asked a few days ago about her getting a visitor visa and some people have given you their opinion that by her quitting her job it will not help her to get a visa. Which is totally true. These are the guidelines they follow. Whether we like them or not, we have to accept them.

We are not saying she will not get her visa but we are thinking like an immigration officer. No job is her country means no ties. If you want to be totally honest, tell the immigrationofficer your wife wants to stay in Canada with you. See what happens.

People do not want you to be separated but you asked and we gave an opinion. Sometimes the answers we get are not what we want and then we get upset.

Good luck
Stay calm
CHEERS

[06-05-2005,05:07]
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Immigration Guy
(in reply to: To Sharon- visitor visa discussion)
In Emyesbee´s context wife´s job is irrelevant to me as it´s a matter of spousal reunion. Do you expect CIC officials to believe that a wife will leave her husband to return back to her job and that too after 4-6 months or so? Moreover, nobody in India gets such a long leave from his/her job and she would not want a permit of just few days.

OK so all said and done, what do we have now...is there any category of visa under which spouse can apply to join their working partner in Canada or do they have to just apply for visitor visa giving the above mentioned reason.

It would be a good idea Emyesbee to talk directly to the CIC office in your city and get to know of the options you have. As I always say, let us know how it goes so that it could be of help to others in future.

Good luck!

[06-05-2005,05:29]
[**.183.112.122]
Robinhood
(in reply to: To Sharon- visitor visa discussion)
Robinhood... that is why I asked early on how he filled out the work permit documents. He said his wife would not be accompanying him. He needs to find out if he can ammend his documents.
[06-05-2005,12:58]
[***.20.170.23]
sharon
(in reply to: To Sharon- visitor visa discussion)
Hi Sharon

If he goes back to his country & Apply Work Visa again & include his family then can it work for them



[06-05-2005,21:09]
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Anonymous
(in reply to: To Sharon- visitor visa discussion)
robinhood

there is no such thing as spousal reunion visas. either he becomes a PR and then sponsors her, or she attempts a visitors visa. Robinhood... you clearly articulated why a visitors visa is not likely to be issued.

The only way I can see, is for him to ammend his work permit. either they will say yes, or they will say no. I do not even know if it is possible. He was asked at the time of his application if he was bringing anyone with him and he said no. I am sorry he is feeling persecuted but it is not CIC´s fault he said he was travelling alone, and it is not CIC´s fault that his wife has made it almost impossible for them to issue a visitors visa.

we have a saying... ´if you make a bed you have to sleep in it.´

[06-05-2005,22:01]
[***.20.170.23]
sharon
(in reply to: To Sharon- visitor visa discussion)
{Robinhood... you clearly articulated why a visitors visa is not likely to be issued.}

Well, this is what I said:

?Even if she comes on a visitor visa that is fair enough as visitor visa doesn?t just mean that you are entering Canada for sight seeing. People are entitled to visit Canada for different reasons as I have seen from the various cases. It is quite unreasonable to challenge her intentions as she would not want to stay here illegally without getting proper extensions from CIC. And to my understanding the CIC should give her the extensions till Emyesbee?s work permit.?

{He was asked at the time of his application if he was bringing anyone with him and he said no. I am sorry he is feeling persecuted but it is not CIC?s fault he said he was travelling alone, and it is not CIC?s fault that his wife has made it almost impossible for them to issue a visitors visa.}

I suppose the couple deserves the freedom of movement; when & where they want to go it is their wish. You are saying it?s not CIC?s fault and he?s feeling persecuted- hey they haven?t even applied yet?CIC is out of the picture right now. Once she applies for the visitor?s visa then only will CIC act?right? It doesn?t make sense to assume beforehand that it?s going to be a denial. I am quite positive she?ll get the visa once she applies with proper supporting docs.

[06-05-2005,22:38]
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Robinhood
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