Sponsor my spouse, not living in Canada

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Subject: Sponsor my spouse, not living in Canada
  Hello all,

I am about to sponsor my wife to come to Canada. However, I live with her in her country. I know that this is OK, so long as you establish reasonable plans to break ties with this country can come back to Canada.

My problem is, I have no residency status in this country (Colombia). I am "legal" here under a "tourist" VISA. However, I live in Colombia, and looking for work, and I plan on staying here until the case is processed. I have been here for 3 months.

Do I say that I do not live in Canada or am I still considered a Canadian resident?

What if I stated that I live in Colombia, but give them an explanation on a seperate sheet about my situation.

Any suggestions would be greatly appreciated,

Dave

[13-06-2005,04:36]
[***.116.147.37]
dave
(in reply to: Sponsor my spouse, not living in Canada)
I understand that you are Canadian Permanent Residence and Citizen. Based on that you can not sponsor anyone as long as you are not living in Canada.

In this case you can not sponsor her at all unless you go back and live in Canada.

Saleh

[13-06-2005,06:20]
[***.229.168.132]
Saleh
(in reply to: Sponsor my spouse, not living in Canada)
This is not true. So long as you are a CITIZEN you can sponsor a SPOUSE if you live outside of Canada. You must provide proof that you reside exclusively outside Canada, and you must promise to return to Canada with your sponsored spouse once they get PR VISA (as well as giving reasonable proof that you will break ties with the country that you are living in, and have reasonable plans for reestablishing yourself in Canada .

My question was, given my situation, am I considered to be living "exclusively outside of Canada".

Dave

[13-06-2005,14:03]
[***.116.147.37]
dave
(in reply to: Sponsor my spouse, not living in Canada)
You CAN sponsor a SPOUSE from outside Canada provided you are a legal resident of the country you are in. CIC stipulates, however, that you are not considered a resident of a country as long as you are on a tourist visa, regardless of how long you have been there.

I?m sorry to tell you that you are considered to be a resident of Canada at the moment, and you must apply as such. This does not, however, preclude you from sending in the application from outside of Canada. The problem is that you will have to submit a Canadian address and Canadian employment status as well as proof of Canadian earnings for the past 12 months. I don?t know how you will do this if you have been outside of Canada for an extended period of time.

I was in this situation when I got married in the Philippines. I had been there for two years on tourist visa status and was not eligible to sponsor until I could show either a year of Canadian employment history or a year of employment history from a country I was legally residing in.

I ended up finding work in Korea as an English teacher and taking my wife with me. We waited over a year before applying from here, and have recently received a request for her passport to be sent in for a PR stamp. For many, this is a very long-term approach. But the positive side of it is that we have never had to be apart during the process, and we have been able to save quite a bit of money during out two years here.

Feel free to ask me any questions and I?ll do my best to accommodate you.

Best wishes.

[13-06-2005,14:26]
[***.96.184.65]
Mike
(in reply to: Sponsor my spouse, not living in Canada)
Hi,

I racked up about $21,000 in 4 months working in Northern Alberta from Nov 04 to March 05. I now live in Colombia, where my earnings have been 0, and I am looking for a job here as an English teacher... not to fool immigration, but so I can live and work here with my wife while we wait out the process.

I may be employed at the time I am ready to file, but at the moment I am not.

So, please correct me if I am wrong (Mike):

1. If I am ready to send my file to Missasauga, and I have not found a job here (still on a tourist VISA) I should just apply with a Canadian address, as if I reside in Canada. I will say that I am unemployed, but will show my previous earnings (I have good T4s since graduating University in 2001) and give an explanation that I am more than capable of providing for myself.

2. If I have found a job, I will file as being employed, but residing exlusively outside Canada. I will show that I intend to leave Colombia as soon as my wife receives her visa.

Do you think this is logical... please let me know if I am off track here.

Thanks a bunch,

Dave

[13-06-2005,21:57]
[***.116.147.37]
dave
(in reply to: Sponsor my spouse, not living in Canada)
Hi Dave,

You don?t sound off track in the reasoning you outline in your two points. Regarding your first point, there is no reason a Canadian can?t send in papers from outside the country. The point is that you live in Canada but just happen to be out of the country at the moment.

But if you choose to go the second rout, remember that you must be living EXCLUSIVELY outside of Canada. In this case you don?t want to have an address there. Obviously you don?t want to ?fool? CIC. But you DO want to present your application in such a way that your case will be judged favorably.

There has always been some ambiguity surrounding the issue of how earnings can affect the outcome of a sponsor application. On the one hand there is no official cutoff when sponsoring a spouse. But on the other hand CIC can refuse you as a sponsor if they feel you will be unable to support your undertaking. In situations where sponsors must meet minimum income requirements (not you) CIC will not take into consideration money accumulated as savings ? even if it?s a million dollars. I have no idea if they maintain this policy when processing applications where minimum income requirements don?t apply. But I have a feeling your savings will help your case.

Sometimes you can gain more insight into how to present your application by reading through processing manuals that are available on the main CIC webpage. Click the top link, POLICY AND REGULATIONS and then go into MANUALS AND OPERATIONS MEMORANDA.

I hope this helps a bit.

Best wishes,

Mike

[14-06-2005,13:04]
[***.96.184.65]
Mike
(in reply to: Sponsor my spouse, not living in Canada)
Thanks Mike.

I have about $9000 in my RRSP. Does this help? I know banks do not care about this when giving you a loan, b/c if you declare bankruptcy, they cannot touch your RRSP.

I also have a high line of credit (well, I think its high!),a credit card with zero balance, and a perfect credit rating. I have no debts, and a good T4s since 2001. I have succesfully paid off a student loan of $5000 in 8 months and a line of credit loan of $5000 in two months (borrowed to pay for my wedding) Would they take this into consideration? Well, I guess you won´t know for sure.

My savings are very low right now.... just my RRSP (which are fully CDIC insured, Garuateed Investment Certificates).

Dave


[14-06-2005,15:30]
[***.116.147.37]
dave
Spouse info (in reply to: Sponsor my spouse, not living in Canada)
I have PR status and I am currently living in Canada. I want to sponsor my wife out of Canada. What way should I adopt that is Spouse sponsorship Canada class or Spouse sponsorship outside Canada. Also if it is the first opttion what are the chance of getting a Fiance´ visa (is this type of visa still being offered).


Atif

[06-07-2005,17:45]
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Atif
Sponsor my spouse, not living in Canada (in reply to: Sponsor my spouse, not living in Canada)
Hi!

I´m Joahnna. I am a permanent resident here in canada and i want to sponsor my husband who is living in the Philippines. Me, my parents, and my brother immigrated here in canada last January 29,2006.. After receiving my PR card after 1 month I go back to the Philippines on February 26, 2006 to marry my husband so that I could sponsor him and it is also because I´m currently pregnant with our child. And we really have to be there for our upcoming baby. I am due on July 13,2006 that´s why as of now I´m unemployed because of my condition, I´m living now with my parents and brother here in canada and they are the ones supporting me. But I´m planning to work after my recovery.

My question is, am i eligible to sponsor my husband even if i´m unemployed?

Thank you for your time!


REGARDS TO ALL!

[19-06-2006,00:03]
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Joahnna Tanguilig
Status of wife living with her mother in Pakistan (in reply to: Sponsor my spouse, not living in Canada)
My wife has a Canadian Resident Visa and have Canadian passport. She wishes to live permanently with her mother living in Pakistan. Does it affect her status if she does not go to Canada or is it mandatory for her to spend some time in Canada? If so, how much time in a year?

I will appreciate your guidance.

With best regards

[12-01-2012,03:09]
[***.38.168.123]
Muhammad Zubair
(in reply to: Sponsor my spouse, not living in Canada)
she MUST live in Canada 730 days out of every 5 years or she loses her status.
[12-01-2012,06:37]
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Sharon