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Subject: About to be rejected on medical grounds- help!
  Hi all,
Today we got a letter from cic stating that our case might be rejected on medical grounds.We have a son who has a disability.He is not on any medications or is not physically handicapped.He has communication disorder and requires speech therapy and is in a special ed. classroom.we wanted to know if there are any private insurance which we can get for our son to cover all the cost of speech and any other therapy he needs.Please help.
Also does anyone know of a good reliable lawyer who might be able to help?We are really sad as we thought once we have passed the IA where we had clearly stated everything about our son´s condition we would not have any more problem.Anyway if anyone can help please respond.
Thanks.

[22-08-2005,21:30]
[**.58.101.187]
Anonymous
(in reply to: About to be rejected on medical grounds- help!)
I have never heard of such insurance. I am sorry that you face this road block.
[22-08-2005,22:47]
[***.20.170.23]
sharon
(in reply to: About to be rejected on medical grounds- help!)
I hope your case wont be rejected but you made a mistake by telling every thing in advance. I did not mean that you should have not disclosed the problem to your son. But when you tell them something before they ask you about something that makes them feel that problem must be very serious. You should have taken the problem very normally and during the medical doctor ask you about such issue. that was the time you should have informed the doctor very normally with some some convincing points that you are taking good care of him. He does not need any medication neither any extra expense is required for his treatment. Ofcourse doctors know about such things as well. Since you have disclosed every thing and now you are in trouble, you should immeditly consult a lawyer. Remember lawyers in north America are same as the lawyers in any developing countries of the other side of the world. Make every thing clear with the lawyer before retaining his/her services. And consult 2, 3 or more lawyers and then make a choice. You can easily find a lawyer through web. Search Canadian immigration appeals lawyers and you will get alot. Dont worry we will pray for your success. Good Luck
[22-08-2005,22:48]
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Malik
(in reply to: About to be rejected on medical grounds- help!)
Malik... you are suggesting fraud.
[23-08-2005,00:13]
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sharon
(in reply to: About to be rejected on medical grounds- help!)
I disagree Sharon. I have been here for over 6 years trying to do everything to the tee to satisfy the whims and fancies of CIC and all educational institutions I have attended. I have shelled out over $90,000 in tuition alone not to mention the taxes and living expenses but still I have ALWAYS received the short end of the stick as a "student" and as a "foreign worker". I dont want to go into in-depth detail about my experiences here with the "system" but let´s just say if it´s not serious, dont bother disclosing it. I dont see anonymous´ son´s condition a matter serious enough to disclose to CIC especially since his treatment will not be of additional cost to the government (in fact it will actually benefit them). The money they will be shelling out for his treatment will be coming out of their own pocket. So Malik, I agree with you 100%.

Dont get me wrong. I love this country and cannot wait to integrate into it as a Canadian. It´s just that I have been fighting constant battles with the system as a "foreign student and worker" when I have done nothing but follow every rule and regulation dictated by the government. My experiences are gradually leading me to believe otherwise.

[23-08-2005,00:50]
[**.71.45.91]
Candice
(in reply to: About to be rejected on medical grounds- help!)
Hi Sharon,Malik,and candice,
Thank you.I am at a loss.I donot know how I can convince them that my son would not be an excessive demand on the gov.I can have a private insurance for him if that is availble and also agree to terms that he will not recieve any extra benefits from the state.Is there any way to contact the immigration officer assigned to my case so that I can ask him what exactly I need to do to fight for my case?Thanks.

[23-08-2005,01:20]
[**.58.101.187]
Anonymous
(in reply to: About to be rejected on medical grounds- help!)
Candice, the only problem is that speach therapy and special education etc is a government service. Our poster has made no offer to pay out of pocket and there is no insurance that I am aware of that would cover such services.

Besides, Canada could never hold our poster to those kinds of conditions. The child is entitled to services as a Canadian PR and our laws would protect his rights to any treatment or special service he might require.

We do not know the severity of the child´s diabilities but we know enough to see that CIC is concerned.

I would suggest our friend seek the advice of a lawyer to see if there are some options available to them.

as for short end of the stick - I am getting my fair share too. I doubt that we want to have a contest.

[23-08-2005,01:25]
[***.20.170.23]
sharon
(in reply to: About to be rejected on medical grounds- help!)
This post makes me worried as I disclosed on the application that my son has bipolar disorder for which he receives medication and a modified educational arrangement. I have read in this forum that it is better to be forward with perinent information rather than the CIC finding out later which would suggest, as Sharon suggests, fraud. I couldn´t lie on such an important document. They´d probably find out sooner or later anyway.
Well, I will hope for the best.

[23-08-2005,03:35]
[**.223.166.231]
Greg
(in reply to: About to be rejected on medical grounds- help!)
OK, the CIC site can be confusing, and legal wording is confusing. But, "search" the following: Bill C-11 and "Excessive Demand Exception." Here is a cut and paste:

"Excessive demand exemption Family Class sponsored spouses, common-law partners, conjugal partners and their dependent children, and convention refugees and persons in need of protection and their dependents, will not be refused entry if they have a health condition that places excessive demand on health or social services."

So does this apply to you? Does it apply to me?

[23-08-2005,04:11]
[**.223.166.231]
Greg
(in reply to: About to be rejected on medical grounds- help!)
Hi all,
Me and my wife are both engineers with masters and have been in the US for the last 6 years .Our son goes to public school and gets whatever the school offers nothing extra.I have disclosed everything form the begining and thought that if we were not eligible we would not get an IA or interview waiver.But anyway how do I prove that we are quite capable of providing any extra services he might need although he has not been getting any here .What the public school provides is o.k .Besides the school and his doctor I donot know who else to contact.Any good lawyers out there?Also whatever assets we have will ultimately go to him after our death.I really donot know what else to do.
Thanks again.

[23-08-2005,11:01]
[**.58.101.187]
Anonymous
(in reply to: About to be rejected on medical grounds- help!)
101.187, I have no doubt that this is your desire and intention. Now the task is to help CIC get comfortable with your son´s situation. The letter has not indicated a final decision so I would try and make contact with them either directly or through a lawyer to find out what information they might need to make a positive decion.

Greg, I think you should be OK. People live with Bipolar that are never properly diagnosed and treatments are not considered expensive here.

[23-08-2005,13:44]
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sharon